Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > 2+2 Communities > EDF
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-22-2007, 12:26 PM
El Diablo El Diablo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 33,802
Default General writing tips

OK, not sure if this is really going to work. Maybe too general, but let's give it a shot and see what happens.

Here's one tip I use a lot when I'm writing something for real or semi-real. Go through what you've written and scan for repeated usage of the same word. I generally find that once I start using a word to describe something, I'll often use that exact word in an overly frequent manner. I'm not doing it now, but I normally might use the word repeated a lot in this paragraph if I weren't thinking about it. Same thing for descriptive words/phrases. Say I call something "really great" in a sentence - I'll often find myself soon after writing "really great" again. Going back through what you've written and using alternate terms for some of these words makes the writing fresher and more interesting.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-22-2007, 12:32 PM
elwoodblues elwoodblues is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sweet Home, Chicago
Posts: 4,485
Default Re: General writing tips

When editing/proofreading read from the last sentence to the first sentence. When you read from front to back you tend to move quickly (knowing what comes next) and miss things. Reading from back to front requires you to slow down.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-22-2007, 12:44 PM
econophile econophile is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: (X\'X)^(-1)X\'Y
Posts: 5,085
Default Re: General writing tips

El D,

The technique you describe is called "elegant variation." Many style guides say not to use it because it confuses the reader.

wiki page

I'd be happy to hear others thoughts on this, though, since I don't think it's a clear-cut issue.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-22-2007, 01:00 PM
Aloysius Aloysius is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,338
Default Re: General writing tips

[ QUOTE ]
El D,

The technique you describe is called "elegant variation." Many style guides say not to use it because it confuses the reader.

wiki page

I'd be happy to hear others thoughts on this, though, since I don't think it's a clear-cut issue.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I think there's a clear distinction between "inelegant variation" (ie variation for variation's sake)... and avoiding repetitive phrases / words (which is what Diablo is advocating in the OP).

In general, I think one must first consider the audience, when thinking of tips on how best to write.

Since I mainly write business strategy pieces for work, summary of findings, market analysis, stuff like that... there's a major premium on precision and brevity. I also focus on diction and varying sentence structure. And while I try to avoid being repetitive, I'm not really trying hard to be writer-ly in anyway. I just want to be clear and efficient in my prose.

-Al
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-22-2007, 01:08 PM
ReptileHouse ReptileHouse is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,203
Default Re: General writing tips

I often fall into the same trap that El D is talking about. I repeat the same word or phrase for no apparent reason beyond that it's stuck in my head. I've gotten better at correcting it lately, and my writing is much more effective as a result.

A grammatical mistake I see frequently is incorrect parallel structure (http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handou..._parallel.html). A little time thinking about it while writing and a bit of proofreading afterwards will do wonders. Good parallel structure allows the reader to focus on the contents, not the form, of what's being presented. Bad structure is often jarring and distracting.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-22-2007, 01:31 PM
Hey_Porter Hey_Porter is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,148
Default Re: General writing tips

Use active voice.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-22-2007, 01:41 PM
JayTee JayTee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,149
Default Re: General writing tips

12 Writing Tips from George Orwell
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-22-2007, 02:01 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Osi Ukin\'-yora
Posts: 9,388
Default Re: General writing tips

I think if you're writing a joke or doing humorous writing, you often want to use different words to describe the same thing to set up the punch line/gist of the joke.

Still, there's a time to vary the words you use and a time not to - in a business setting, it would just seem to be distracting. The example in the wiki article is bad because it uses 3 nouns to refer to the same person - it should only use 2, but it sounds like children's writing if it uses one.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-22-2007, 02:08 PM
kidcolin kidcolin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: get yo fishin right
Posts: 9,576
Default Re: General writing tips

I'm a pretty terrible writer. My friend is an excellent writer. He pointed me to this: Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses by Mark Twain

In it Twain lays out some ground rules for "literary art", but a lot of it pertains to every day stuff like emails and such.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-22-2007, 02:15 PM
idrinkcoors idrinkcoors is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Colorado
Posts: 668
Default Re: General writing tips

One of my writing pet peeves is when an author starts off every sentence with the same word. My friend recently asked me to help him change his online dating profile, which had the following verbage:

"I like to go hiking and camping. I like fine dinning and a good glass of red wine. I enjoy theatre. I love mountain biking." etc. He rarely got any "hits." After some rearranging of sentence structure, he still isn't the Collin Farrel of the online dating world, but he's getting more interest.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.