$22 small pp play

[mnlgrind]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t120/t240
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1145
UTG+1: t1570
CO: t3370
Button: t4363
SB: t1487
Hero: t1565

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t480</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1565</font>,

he did this the last hand, I figured, ill just let it rip here? thoughts?

[PattdownManiac]

Unless he is horrible there is no fold equity, I think I'd stop n go.

[Dima2000123]

With 6 big blinds, I push and pray with any pocket pair. With 6 players left, you have to get lucky once or twice at some point to make it in the money, and you're almost at a point where your steal shoves aren't credible. If you win a coin flip, you would be in good position to steal the blinds, since you'd have two perfect victims to your left.

[PattdownManiac]

So why do you guys prefer shoving 22 with no fold equity over a stop-n-go?

[sence25]

what if an ace or a king comes up on the flop? you just c/f then? his raise is too big for stop-n-go IMHO, pot will me ur stacksize postflop..
i like shoving

[JayTee]

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what if an ace or a king comes up on the flop? you just c/f then? his raise is too big for stop-n-go IMHO, pot will me ur stacksize postflop..
i like shoving

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If you decide to stop n go the flop is irrelevant. The fact that his raise is big is big relative to stack sizes is the reason to stop n go. That being said, I don't know if its the correct play here, if you think you have FE over villain (a lot of times when guys are raising loose they don't want to call and show the junk they're raising with) perhaps a push is in order.

[PattdownManiac]

sence: do you know what a stop-n-go is?

[Dima2000123]

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So why do you guys prefer shoving 22 with no fold equity over a stop-n-go?

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In this spot, I would prefer to shove with 22, because I desperately need to take some risks to climb up. With a pocket pair, I'm nearly guaranteed a certain chance, and there's no telling if I'll get another chance before being blinded out. With stop-go, even if the Villain folds, I'm still not that much better off, and will have to look for another spot to take a gamble.

[JayTee]

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So why do you guys prefer shoving 22 with no fold equity over a stop-n-go?

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In this spot, I would prefer to shove with 22, because I desperately need to take some risks to climb up. With a pocket pair, I'm nearly guaranteed a certain chance, and there's no telling if I'll get another chance before being blinded out. With stop-go, even if the Villain folds, I'm still not that much better off, and will have to look for another spot to take a gamble.

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So you don't like adding 50% to your stack with no showdown?

[PattdownManiac]

Wow Dima is missing the whole point of a stopngo. Also sense, when high cards flop, that is kind of the point of the stopngo. Now he may fold his 33-whatever instead of stacking you.