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Old 04-16-2007, 12:41 AM
an0nym0u5 an0nym0u5 is offline
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Default Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking at?

If I want to learn and coach myself from stoxtrader's (or any expert hold'em player) handhistory DB, what kind of hands should I be looking at? Obviously I'm not learning as much if I go through all of his AA and KK hands and watch him go through less difficult scenarios.

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Old 04-16-2007, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

I would be in the position stats tab, and primarly looking at button, SB, and BB play. And if I saw anything unusual to me, I would then be looking up the opponents with whom the hands were played against, and be examing their numbers, and try to make sense of why it's unusual to me and if there's some good logic in the choices he made against someone with those #s.
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Old 04-16-2007, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

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I would be in the position stats tab, and primarly looking at button, SB, and BB play. And if I saw anything unusual to me, I would then be looking up the opponents with whom the hands were played against, and be examing their numbers, and try to make sense of why it's unusual to me and if there's some good logic in the choices he made against someone with those #s.

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Old 04-16-2007, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

Can someone hook a brother up and tell me how one procures the Stoxtrader database?

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Old 04-16-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

I always find it funny when I see people talking buying a database without knowing what to do with it. It only makes sense if you are good enough already to understand why it makes sense...

Anyways, where can I get a copy and how much does it go for?
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

The LHE DB is approx 105k hands from last year (at some point i simply cut them off because I didnt want to give more current data) and goes for $300. The larger one includes my NL play and NL HU and has many more hands and goes for 1k. Yes I know the prices are high.
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

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I would be in the position stats tab, and primarly looking at button, SB, and BB play. And if I saw anything unusual to me, I would then be looking up the opponents with whom the hands were played against, and be examing their numbers, and try to make sense of why it's unusual to me and if there's some good logic in the choices he made against someone with those #s.

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Thanks, this is the exact type of response I was looking for.

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The LHE DB is approx 105k hands from last year (at some point i simply cut them off because I didnt want to give more current data) and goes for $300. The larger one includes my NL play and NL HU and has many more hands and goes for 1k. Yes I know the prices are high.

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Was the large DB always 1k? It was $1500 when I paid for it.

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I always find it funny when I see people talking buying a database without knowing what to do with it. It only makes sense if you are good enough already to understand why it makes sense...

Anyways, where can I get a copy and how much does it go for?

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I guess the same could go for people who don't know where to find it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

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The LHE DB is approx 105k hands from last year (at some point i simply cut them off because I didnt want to give more current data) and goes for $300. The larger one includes my NL play and NL HU and has many more hands and goes for 1k. Yes I know the prices are high.

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Hey stox, are the LHE hands all 6-max? What limits do they cover? I'm currently a 5/10 6-max guy who is aspiring to more, but I'm not sure how much a bunch of 100/200 3-handed type hands will help me...

Thanks!

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Old 04-16-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Purchased stoxtrader\'s DB, what kind of hands should I be looking

anon - I spoke from memory and misquoted. it should be 1500, sorry. I had not intended for the price to come down but hadnt done this in a while and honestly couldnt remember.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:24 PM
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The LHE DB is approx 105k hands from last year (at some point i simply cut them off because I didnt want to give more current data) and goes for $300. The larger one includes my NL play and NL HU and has many more hands and goes for 1k. Yes I know the prices are high.

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Hey stox, are the LHE hands all 6-max? What limits do they cover? I'm currently a 5/10 6-max guy who is aspiring to more, but I'm not sure how much a bunch of 100/200 3-handed type hands will help me...

Thanks!

-Brass

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yes, all 6 max, mostly 5-6 handed but some 2-3 handed and limits basically 50/100+ so aggressive games. If you are playing 5/10 it's probably pretty close considering the price, 30bbs, but I think it is value for players higher.
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