KQs [censored] weird

orange · #1 04-12-2007, 05:21 PM

alright, this was a table filled with donkeys, i [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] it so far.

opening villan is a stupid miniraising moron. not a great read other than that. he always miniraises pf.

the second miniraiser, he's really bad. i recently doubled him up though when he limp/called pf with A2s and the flop came something like A2K (i had like KQ or something). he has limped almost every hand, miniraising alot. he peels the flop with A high with no pair/no draw. so he's pretty horrible.

the COLD CALLER (SB) no real read on. he miniraises quite frequently pf though (like 3x/round) and is very active.

so lets start with PF, i think this is an easy call here most times. how bout this flop though?

Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $27.50
BB: $125.05
UTG: $165.70
CO: $148.50
Hero (BTN): $224.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG raises to $4, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB bets $6, BB folds, UTG raises to $18, CO folds, Hero ...

goofyballer · #2 04-12-2007, 05:26 PM

Call the flop and see what happens. It doesn't really matter how transparent your hand is judging by how bad the rest of the table is. You're only calling like $18 into $54 right now, so you're getting decent immediate odds, and even though you aren't closing the action I think it's worth taking a shot to try to stack these guys. Even if someone raises behind you, the other people active in the hand could still call those raises before action gets back to you, giving you a nice overlay.

beachbum · #3 04-12-2007, 05:27 PM

I'd lean toward calling since you're essentially closing the action because SB can't reraise enough to reopen the betting.

goofyballer · #4 04-12-2007, 05:28 PM

Oh, true, I didn't even notice how short SB is. Easy call. Next street plz.

orange · #5 04-12-2007, 05:30 PM

ah okay, well i guess the rest isnt very interesting. i was just wondering if i should ever raise this flop. but with pos/donkey opponents/doesnt really matter how disguised my hand is or whatever. i called, hit a spade on the turn, he c/c-ed my bet and the river bricked he c/ced my shove with 44 and i won. here is the rest of the hand:

Poker Stars
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $27.50
BB: $125.05
UTG: $165.70
CO: $148.50
Hero (BTN): $224.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG raises to $4, CO raises to $6, Hero calls $6, SB calls $5, BB calls $4, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB bets $6, BB folds, UTG raises to $18, CO folds, Hero calls $18, SB raises all-in to $21.50, UTG calls $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($94.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
UTG checks, Hero bets $45, UTG calls $45

River: ($184.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
UTG checks, Hero bets $110, UTG calls all-in for $93.20

Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and won (+$186.40)
SB had 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and lost (-$27.50)
UTG had 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and lost (-$165.70)

Pot Size: $387.70 ($2 Rake)

MasterLJ · #6 04-12-2007, 05:31 PM

PUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

I don't care how weird it looks.

delta k · #7 04-12-2007, 05:31 PM

this hand isn't even a hand

orange · #8 04-12-2007, 05:32 PM

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PUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

I don't care how weird it looks.

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ah, well, we have a different opinion now delta. we have 2 calls and a shove. what do you think?

plan9 · #9 04-12-2007, 05:50 PM

I would call with position but pushing isn't bad since you have 15 outs most of the time...

MasterLJ · #10 04-12-2007, 05:52 PM

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I would call with position but pushing isn't bad since you have 15 outs most of the time...

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And you're isolating against the short stack with dead money in the pot. So segzy.