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Old 04-26-2007, 09:23 PM
sublime sublime is offline
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Default standard flop jam?

still getting used to play strong but not great draws on flops. here i figured my FE + equity qas enough to shove, but am checking on any hands i note while playing to check if i played correctly.

villian is 30/12/2 and i have been active at this table with him folding to most of my opens. i am easily most aggressive player at table.

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No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.50/$1 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">SB: $105.90</font>
BB: $116.90
UTG: $118.35
CO: $105.20
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $102.50</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($9) (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $21</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $98.50
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: standard flop jam?

I wonder about spots like these. Not sure if your overcards are always live. Your getting around 2-1 on just seeing a turn with plenty of implied odds. I dont mind a call instead. I dont really mind a push either.
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: standard flop jam?

IMO this hand was played optimally. The only hand you're really afdraid of calling your push is A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Against all other hands you have quite a few outs. You can't just check behind on the flop because that puts you in the worst possible implied odds situation. You can't fold to the raise because you have a lot of equity against his range. You might bet-call if you think he will bet a non-flush hand when the flush comes on the turn, but if he's not likely to do this then (edit)bet-call becomes almost as bad as checking behind as far as implied odds go. Your image will get you a lot more thin check-raises here, so when all is said &amp; done in this spot i think the best line is the one you took.
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: standard flop jam?

i cant see the cards. wtf?
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: standard flop jam?

Looks fine to me. Sometimes players with his type of stats check raise the flop to find out where they are at.

Calling would be okay too. But if he bets large on a blank turn we probably have to dump it.
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:21 PM
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i cant see the cards. wtf?

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They are big blocks with coloring. It looks pretty cool. I'm not sure if I have seen this converter yet.
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: standard flop jam?

[ QUOTE ]
still getting used to play strong but not great draws on flops. here i figured my FE + equity qas enough to shove, but am checking on any hands i note while playing to check if i played correctly.

villian is 30/12/2 and i have been active at this table with him folding to most of my opens. i am easily most aggressive player at table.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.50/$1 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<font color="black">SB: $105.90</font>
BB: $116.90
UTG: $118.35
CO: $105.20
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $102.50</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img](5 Players)
UTG folds, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($9) [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $21</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $98.50

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Old 04-26-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: standard flop jam?

grunch i am in position son. which it appears you noticed, but then startyed talkign like i was OOP. unless my reading comprehension is really whacko yo.
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: standard flop jam?

I know, what did I say wrong?
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:27 PM
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dude, whats up with the converter. tickner fix it!
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