86s turndecision -200 NL 6MAX

[Riina]

Walking through PT so no specifics about opponents except numbers.

Villain is a 38/12 (Vpip/PFR)
UTG is a 21/12

stacks:
Villain SB ($139)
UTG ($352)
Hero in UTG+1 ($246)

UTG openraises to $7, i coldcall in UTG +1 with 8d6d, folded to SB who coldcalls, BB folds (table is 5handed)

flop: 7c 4c 3s (pot $23)

SB and UTG check, I bet $14, SB calls, UTG folds

turn: 6h (pot $51)

SB checks, hero ?

comments appreciated (on all streets), elaboration the most, tx [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[deaders]

Preflop is pretty meh, you can call with a sooted connector type hand like that in lp but calling and UTG raise in utg+1 isnt too good.

Seeing as you got there on the flop Id take the card - there are places where betting out with a gutshot is good but this isnt one of them, I dont think both opponents are folding here anywhere near enough for this to be profitable.

[shpanko]

fold preflop, check behind on the flop.

As played I'd probably take the free card, bet/folding wouldn't be bad though

[Riina]

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Preflop is pretty meh, you can call with a sooted connector type hand like that in lp but calling and UTG raise in utg+1 isnt too good.

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Perhaps its a bit confusing, but since its 5handed im actually the CO. is this lp in your opinion?

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Seeing as you got there on the flop Id take the card - there are places where betting out with a gutshot is good but this isnt one of them, I dont think both opponents are folding here anywhere near enough for this to be profitable.

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In my experience, when UTG pfr checks on this type of flop, hes done with the hand about 90% of the time. So when im in these type of situations im mostly if not only worried about the SB. I need him to fold only about 35-40% of the time for my bet to be profitable. With UTG still in let's top it off at 50% on a whole. Given the fact that he must call with one guy to the left still to act, i think this is an easy criterea to be met as overcards will still be the large bulk of his range?

Thoughts appreciated

[Riina]

I checked through the turn, the river was Kc. We checked through once more, and my 6 held up. Villain had AQo

[KeanuReaver]

i would rather 3bet than call pf.
if you're going to bet the flop, bet like a man. at least $18 but i think $20 would be preferred
check behind turn and river