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Old 04-11-2007, 01:19 PM
pdoran10 pdoran10 is offline
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Default 100 NL restealaments

Um so villan is tag, and aware of position. im making a play obviously preflop. Who shuts down on the flop. who thinks this is fine? who shuts down after the villan calls the flop?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($129.55)
UTG ($170)
MP ($99.60)
Button ($105.50)
SB ($268.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, Button calls $12.

Flop: ($32.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $23</font>, Button calls $23.

Turn: ($78.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($78.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $54</font>

Final Pot: $132.50
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:27 PM
johnnyrocket johnnyrocket is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL restealaments

nothing too bad here. His flop call means you are beat 100% of the time here on the river, usually checking the turn and betting a river blank means u have air and i am calling u real light. I don't mind your play, your preflop play has to work 16 out of 21 times preflop to show a profit. I think its a real bad play at 100nl, its more of a play u see watching higher games cuz players fold here.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: 100 NL restealaments

if he folded, you had the best hand!
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: 100 NL restealaments

I don't see pre-flop as profitable against just the button, you need to be squeezing with limpers/flat callers.

As far as the actual hand, he's never ever ever folding an ace to your bet on the river. If you are hell bent on bluffing here CRAI on the river is the best (although still kinda bad).
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:47 PM
EddieRooo EddieRooo is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL restealaments

He won't fold a better hand on the river, and I have the impression you ere bluffing, just check it down after flop UI. (probably) crappy for image but what can you do
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:50 PM
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He won't fold a better hand on the river, and I have the impression you ere bluffing, just check it down after flop UI. (probably) crappy for image but what can you do

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There is no such thing as a bad image. Any image you have is exploitable so long as you know what it is.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:52 PM
EddieRooo EddieRooo is offline
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He won't fold a better hand on the river, and I have the impression you ere bluffing, just check it down after flop UI. (probably) crappy for image but what can you do

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There is no such thing as a bad image. Any image you have is exploitable so long as you know what it is.

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Thus the "(probably)" - personally I would rather not show these hands down so that I can continue to raise/my cbets get more respect so I dont have to nit it up for X rounds.
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:22 PM
Johnny Drama Johnny Drama is offline
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If you are hell bent on bluffing here CRAI on the river is the best

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button has $66.50 going into the river. If he bets anything on the river, he will be pot-committed.
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:39 PM
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I would have c-betted around the full pot here to better represent the big ace as there are so many draws and you obviously would like to just take it down on the flop. Like many have said I just shut down after I get called on the flop unless I improve.
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:50 PM
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I would have c-betted around the full pot here to better represent the big ace as there are so many draws and you obviously would like to just take it down on the flop. Like many have said I just shut down after I get called on the flop unless I improve.

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RR pots require smaller c-bets. Ace high boards require smaller c-bets. I don't see any reason to pot the flop. 2/3 gets the same result.

Preflop is bad unless button has been opening every hand folded to him for like 10 orbits.
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