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Old 04-10-2007, 09:25 PM
H20 H20 is offline
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Default weak play in blind battle

Villain is 38/25/2.4 in 40 hands and has been very agressive. It's not the 1st time he 3bet from the bb.


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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 6BB
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: weak play in blind battle

Looks good.

The flop is not that great for you as the K and Q hits his range pretty well. I am not looking to fold tho.

By the turn I am expecting him to 2'nd barrel any hand so good call.

River screwed you, good fold getting 7:1.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:01 AM
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Oink, you're c/cing any non club here right and c/raising if you improve? How bout another big non club card like JQK? Anyway, I think you're assessment is good.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: weak play in blind battle

theres no value in limping preflop?
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:30 AM
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theres no value in limping preflop?

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there's no value in raising pf?

sometimes 1 sometimes the other.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: weak play in blind battle

Preflop:
If you know he is aggressive why don't you just call this one if he'll probably do the raising for you anyway. A fold though is out of question of course. You are far best the most of the time.

Flop:
I fancy a checkraise more here because then I will represent the K or Q and if he wants to stay in he'll have to have a hand. A check-call gains me nothing unless I can fold to a turn bet(of course we have potodds on the flop to call)

turn:
I don't like the turn call. The board is just too scary.

River: What about a bluff here? Depends on how he sees you.
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:38 AM
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theres no value in limping preflop?

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there's no value in raising pf?

sometimes 1 sometimes the other.

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Really? I raise this always. With this type of opponent you're losing the chance to steal and he'll raise you with a lot of stuff anyway. Is limping here just for deception?
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:50 AM
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theres no value in limping preflop?

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there's no value in raising pf?

sometimes 1 sometimes the other.

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Really? I raise this always. With this type of opponent you're losing the chance to steal and he'll raise you with a lot of stuff anyway. Is limping here just for deception?

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sometimes i limp/call because i'm most likely showing down anyway and i can probably c/r a big street
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: weak play in blind battle

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Preflop:
If you know he is aggressive why don't you just call this one if he'll probably do the raising for you anyway. A fold though is out of question of course. You are far best the most of the time.

Flop:
I fancy a checkraise more here because then I will represent the K or Q and if he wants to stay in he'll have to have a hand. A check-call gains me nothing unless I can fold to a turn bet(of course we have potodds on the flop to call)

turn:
I don't like the turn call. The board is just too scary.

River: What about a bluff here? Depends on how he sees you.
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I like this line of thinking alot. I will often call an aggressive opponent here PF knowing he may well raise PF with dirt. Than I CR the flop with or without a hand.

I don't like the bluff on the end idea because he bet the turn with the big cards on board and he may call club free out of long term EV?
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:01 PM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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Default Re: weak play in blind battle

there are some lagtards that I can check call a weak A from pf to the river without improving because I know they are going to fire every street regardless of whether or not they improved (especially if they don't have A-high beat on the end). After I show down a A or K high and take a pot from them they tend to get so confused that they start giving me all kinds of free cards, or folding to the slightest aggression from me.
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