100NL: KK OOP With Aggression

[rapidacid]

No read on villain ... what should I have re-raised preflop to? Easy fold / raise on flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($45.50)
Button ($109.65)
SB ($133.55)
BB ($105.65)
UTG ($120.05)
UTG+1 ($142.50)
MP1 ($153.60)
Hero ($131.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $10.

Flop: ($30.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $21</font>, Hero calls $21.

Turn: ($72.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $74.65 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

[Thrahl]

You cant call that flop bet. You're beating nothing but QQ. Turn is a fold as well. You're not getting proper odds to call. And yes I 4bet here preflop.

[zman2245]

Yeah you definitely want to 4 bet flop especially since you are OOP. Make it $30 to go or so. If villain pushes at that point then its a tough decision leaning toward a fold due to stack sizes.

[Renton]

reraise to like 38 or something, insta call push.

[rapidacid]

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You cant call that flop bet. You're beating nothing but QQ. Turn is a fold as well. You're not getting proper odds to call. And yes I 4bet here preflop.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.315% 35.71% 04.61% 7777 1003.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 59.685% 55.08% 04.61% 11996 1003.50 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

Call $21 to win $52 ( ignoring implied odds ) ... 21/52 = .403 ... aren't I getting exactly the borderline odds to call the flop bet?

[rapidacid]

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You cant call that flop bet. You're beating nothing but QQ. Turn is a fold as well. You're not getting proper odds to call. And yes I 4bet here preflop.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.315% 35.71% 04.61% 7777 1003.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 59.685% 55.08% 04.61% 11996 1003.50 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

Call $21 to win $52 ( ignoring implied odds ) ... 21/52 = .403 ... aren't I getting exactly the borderline odds to call the flop bet with my backdoor nut flush and straight possibilities?

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[rapidacid]

I suck at the internet

[Renton]

rapid, don't get into the habit of making close equity calls with weak hands on the flop when there is money left behind and you can't stand turn action. Its an easy c/f. If the flop were like A43 then you could make an easy c/c.

[Tofu_boy]

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You cant call that flop bet. You're beating nothing but QQ. Turn is a fold as well. You're not getting proper odds to call. And yes I 4bet here preflop.

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.315% 35.71% 04.61% 7777 1003.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 59.685% 55.08% 04.61% 11996 1003.50 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

Call $21 to win $52 ( ignoring implied odds ) ... 21/52 = .403 ... aren't I getting exactly the borderline odds to call the flop bet?

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but sometimes when you know you're behind just fold is better. Odd is good when you get no info. when you know the fact you are behind then why follow pot odd???

[zman2245]

Hey, sorry this is unrelated to hand but when you do these calculations:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.315% 35.71% 04.61% 7777 1003.50 { KcKh }
Hand 1: 59.685% 55.08% 04.61% 11996 1003.50 { TT+, AKs, AKo }

are you using some program that is available online? If so where can I get it? thanks