$114 AK with action

DDBeast · #1 04-03-2007, 11:22 PM

I've seeen the first pusher push AT UTG for 20bbs. The limper is 31/12/4.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1440)
Hero (t2362)
MP1 (t1365)
CO (t1325)
Button (t1650)
SB (t4225)
BB (t1133)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50, Hero raises to t200, MP1 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB raises to t1133 (All-in), UTG raises to t1440 (All-in), Hero ...

Strickly Bidness · #2 04-03-2007, 11:32 PM

well we have to put these guys on a range of hands...By what you are saying I think pushing and folding are both close decisions and I advise pushing. The only reason I feel strongly about pushing is due to the potential strength you might have over the first pusher. I really do believe that you are flipping against UTG limper. This hand really comes down to how strong you are against the first pusher.

Kevin8423 · #3 04-04-2007, 12:23 AM

I would probably fold here, but I'm not really sure what to think of that limper. Do you think its KK+ trying to get raised or just some donk limping trash like A10/AJ and thinking its the nuts?

Shillx · #4 04-04-2007, 12:35 AM

I'm not folding this against unknowns. No way.

maddis · #5 04-04-2007, 12:55 AM

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The limper is 31/12/4.

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Could someone explain what that means?

JMills109 · #6 04-04-2007, 01:17 AM

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The limper is 31/12/4.

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Could someone explain what that means?

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Voluntarily put Chips in Pot, PF Raise, Aggro Factor

AMT · #7 04-04-2007, 02:04 AM

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The limper is 31/12/4.

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Could someone explain what that means?

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Voluntarily put Chips in Pot, PF Raise, Aggro Factor

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they are statistics displayed by a stat display program (PA hud---see FAQ for detais) that display your poker tracker statistics (its a poker db for yourself, again, check FAQ).

DD,

I dont know how bad unknowns are at 114s on stars but it looks like a call with reads and bc shillx said it too.

darinvg · #8 04-04-2007, 09:41 AM

The UTG limp re-reraise seems like a big hand. I don't like a call. Can Shillx or someone explain?

Strickly Bidness · #9 04-04-2007, 10:58 AM

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The UTG limp re-reraise seems like a big hand. I don't like a call. Can Shillx or someone explain?

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Dont be so afraid of the limper. A "big hand" here would be AA or KK and hero has AK so its silly to put him on those. Like I said in my first post, hero is likely even with limper as limper prolly has something like 77-QQ. Its the BB that adds so much value to putting heros chips in the middle so he should not fold.

This is my high level assessment. This problem has a simple mathematics solution but I dont have time. Just put a range of hands on both players and examine EV.

Indy

darinvg · #10 04-04-2007, 11:11 AM

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The UTG limp re-reraise seems like a big hand. I don't like a call. Can Shillx or someone explain?

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Dont be so afraid of the limper. A "big hand" here would be AA or KK and hero has AK so its silly to put him on those. Like I said in my first post, hero is likely even with limper as limper prolly has something like 77-QQ. Its the BB that adds so much value to putting heros chips in the middle so he should not fold.

This is my high level assessment. This problem has a simple mathematics solution but I dont have time. Just put a range of hands on both players and examine EV.

Indy

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Ah, the extra chips in the pot is swinging this to a call even if UTG has a pp (hopefully just not AA or KK). Thanks.