donking sucks

[Riku]

Nothing solid, but villain seemed loosish.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 calls.

I put villain on big cards. Maybe has a T and tries to get tricky with a gs. Hence the raise.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero...

I think it´s safe to say the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] didn´t help him.

[martybonus]

call and c/f river UI?

[nerdking]

grunch

is villain betting top pair here? so far we have jack crap and the pot's small. no real rason to draw to our six outs. pitch it.

[Guitierez]

Fold. Even if you assume 6 outs you are not getting the odds in this tiny pot.

[kerowo]

Without better reads on this guy your line seems a little spewtacular. I don't see much point in going on with this on the turn. Do you really think he is doing this with AJ or worse? Loose doesn't mean stupid.

[Dr. Matt]

the raise on the flop is stupid... you have A-high. Just call, fold the turn ui

[Beanyman101]

You haven't hit the flop, so I'm nto a big fan of your raise here. I'd call the flop, and fold the turn when bet into. Villian may be a little loose, but we're only beating a complete bluff.

[DrModern]

How are you valuing your outs on the flop?

What percentage of the time do you think villain is donking as a bluff (i.e. with AJ or worse)? If you think that percentage is very high--and I can't see a reason to think that, BTW--then you should call the flop rather than raise.

Depending on villain, the flop can be a call or a fold. Unless villain is a total maniac, I can't come up with a reason to raise it.

As played, you should fold the turn. Even if you'd taken the more sensible line and called the flop you should still fold the turn.

[Bona]

Uh. I'm thinking you are right the 2 probably didn't help him. But it didn't help us either. We are still playing the overcards we probably shouldn't have raised the flop with [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. (dangling prepositions are things I should look out for!) And villain still likes his hand.

I am recommending a fold here.

[Riku]

I guess i was thinking, if im going to call this, i might as well raise and take a free card. And if he´s bluffing wiht a worse hand, my call won´t stop him from bluffing again on the turn. Of course one can now state that it didn´t work. But i thought it whould and usually does.