Top pair improves vs. LongLostLoser

[ddubois]

Another spot where I was too passive I think.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="Red">saw showdown</font>

<font color="Red">Hero ($1767.70)</font>
<font color="Red">BB ($783.30)</font>
UTG ($400)
MP ($237.60)
CO ($306.50)
Button ($317.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], K[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]].
<font color="Gray">4 folds</font>, <font color="Red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB calls $8.

Flop: ($24) K[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], 3[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 4[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] <font color="Blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="Red">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="Red">BB raises to $50</font>, Hero calls $34.

I'm obviously turbo-folding if a heart comes. I figure he's either got a set, or a flush draw. The only problem is, I don't know if he has hidden outs, like with 6h7h or Ah3h.

Turn: ($124) Q[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] <font color="Blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="Red">BB bets $100</font>, Hero calls $100.

In a way, the Q on the turn changes nothing (except giving me outs vs 44), I'm still usually ahead, and he usually has outs. Stacks are awkward for a turn CR, this deep. This might be a good spot to bet/call, because maybe I can induce him to raise a draw? But I'd hate to get stacked 200bb by 33/44.

If he has a flush draw, seems like he should have taken his free card.

I don't know how often he will three barrel a busted flush draw. I usually fold to his third barrels (because I usually give up with TPWK or MP), so I don't have much information on them.

River: ($324) J[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] <font color="Blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks hoping to snap off a third barrel.

[FionnMac]

Any reads/stats on the player? How are we supposed to give analysis without this?

Firstly i raise more preflop (since you are deep) and bet more on the flop, like 75-80% of the pot.

Why are you so quick to put him on a flush draw, and rule out air or straight draws etc?

[snugglez88]

I think you're deep enough here that you should be raising, not calling the turn.

[Triumph36]

gross - raise the turn or bet the turn vs. LLL every time

don't wait for sixth street to get the money in

[Isura]

I'd 3-bet the flop and snap call a push. Or raise the turn. Given your line, river check is clear. Easy call if he bets.

[aislephive]

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I'd 3-bet the flop and snap call a push. Or raise the turn. Given your line, river check is clear. Easy call if he bets.

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I'm sure you missed it, but stacks are 200bbs deep.

I'd definitely check raise or bet/3bet the turn. Check calling is pretty disastrous. As played, river check is ok.

[Eagles]

Either bet or c/r the turn. c/c is really bad there.

[ddubois]

For those who lead turn, how much? For those who CR, how much? I mean, if I CR to 300, and he calls, I'm frozen on the river.

[Eagles]

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For those who lead turn, how much? For those who CR, how much? I mean, if I CR to 300, and he calls, I'm frozen on the river.

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Lead like 2/3-3/4 pot. If he calls your c/r I shove a lot of rivers.

[Triumph36]

i'd think about a half pot lead for b/3b - I am never folding here unless the flush hits - but this depends on how often you induce a raise here - the bigger your bet, the less likely it is to induce a raise IMO (this is not linear, but close enough to it).

you're not frozen on the river - you shove and get called by worse fairly often

that's why i like bet 3 bet

even sexier would be bet the turn and c/r shove the river if you get flat-called on turn, but i don't see this being successful often enough