so how do i exctract max value here

[SkinnyLittleTwig]

I've been running like ass and am down to 12x smaller stakes than i played like two weeks ago... sigh

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds
4 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
<font color="black">SB: $128.75</font>
<font color="green">Hero (BB): $72.60</font>
UTG: $116.65
BTN: $89.10

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.75, 4 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $0.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2, 2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $5

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16, 2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $20</font>

since his range is reeeeeally wide here, what do you think the best move is in this situation?

[Loc0Loc0]

Call...

Hoping he shoves on the river. Or bets and you raise the river.

(Btw Never minraise preflop)

[SkinnyLittleTwig]

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(Btw Never minraise preflop)

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ok

[mynameisjoe]

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Hoping he shoves on the river. Or bets and you raise the river.



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I would raise here, he obviously likes his hand, but if its something such as 2 pair with a straight draw and the river comes blank he probably wont be calling much unless he has a 9, but if he has a 9 hell be calling a raise on the turn anyway so theres no reason not to raise.

[Loc0Loc0]

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Hoping he shoves on the river. Or bets and you raise the river.



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I would raise here, he obviously likes his hand, but if its something such as 2 pair with a straight draw and the river comes blank he probably wont be calling much unless he has a 9, but if he has a 9 hell be calling a raise on the turn anyway so theres no reason not to raise.

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Sometimes ppl donking miniraises to see where they stand. With flatcalling you inducing a bluff from worse hands. He calls any 9 on the turn as wel as the river and fold anything else. So why don't we give him another attempt to stab at the pot??

** Edit by flatcalling we can pretend an overpair and he thinks his set is good enough...

[mynameisjoe]

Well the keyword there is sometimes. But I actually changed my mind after re-reading, because he smoothcalled the 3-bet on the flop then checked the turn I would take it to the river becuase he A. Made his hand on the flop or B. Is looking for the straight, so I would take it o the river knowing I have position on him and he is more than likely drawing dead.

[Loc0Loc0]

Btw don't we forgetting he could have a hand like 98 or 96?

Or is the money going in here all the time?

You giving him 3 to 1 odds... He could have anything

***Edit: Sometimes is not the keyword. You must complete his range to make a good discision.

[ElPhoenix]

Pop it up here, the way he played it he rarely has a draw here, so by calling there are a bunch of cards that limit your earn on this hand. Spades/7/5/T all hurt your hand, especially cause his range is straights/trips a lot. Just shove.

[mynameisjoe]

I think with 2 pair on the flop he would raise

[Loc0Loc0]

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Pop it up here, the way he played it he rarely has a draw here, so by calling there are a bunch of cards that limit your earn on this hand. Spades/7/5/T all hurt your hand, especially cause his range is straights/trips a lot. Just shove.

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Good point!