NL25: Calling for set value?

[whizzle]

Villian was an unkown just sat down

I called the 3bet for set value given he is deep enough. But his check on the flop smells like a monster? thoughts? tnx for the replies

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $37.40
CO: $25.40
Button: $1.58
SB: $25
BB: $31.46

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $2.4</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.8, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.8, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $8</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($20.8, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $8</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $36.8

[Machavelli]

I don't get this hand at all. You hit your set and never try to get money in?

I shove this river.

[haz31]

Raise the turn, push the river.
He could easily have AK/AJ and think thats a monster
stop seeing monsters under the bed.

[Supwithbates]

If I'm villain I check flop with AK, AA, KK, QQ. If you lost to a set over set that sucks, just unlucky. You should be trying to get more money in on the turn/river

[monkover]

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If I'm villain I check flop with AK, AA, KK, QQ. If you lost to a set over set that sucks, just unlucky. You should be trying to get more money in on the turn/river

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If he has a bigger set you have to get broke here, there´s just no way around it...

[whizzle]

why would u check a flop here with AK AA KK and QQ?

His reraise on the turn made some bells ring :P JJ AA have me crushed. i don't think he is reraising AK KK or QQ here. He would just call... It is very likely (given that villian is decent) that he has a set here?

[ocdscale]

I think villain checks flop (and plays this hand) with AA, JJ, AK, AJ exactly this way. You're only behind 6/24 of the time, this is definitely a place where you go broke/double up.

What does he think you have? You checked the flop, then put out a $4 bet on the turn. Maybe you're trying to buy the pot, have a weak Ace or KJ/QJ. Until you know what his tendencies are for min-raising, I think it's just there to extract money from the weak hand he believes you're holding.

[ama0330]

I think I have to push the turn here. Given that you checked behind the flop, he probably doesnt give you credit for the Ace, so this could even be KK/QQ. Its a pretty [censored] spot but theres a lot of value in being paid off by AK here.

I do think that this spot is a lot more marginal than you might think but Im okay being stacked here.

[fees]

Uhm, when your opponent 3 bets pf then goes dormant on the flop this should raise some flags... are you ever good on the turn when he minraise? Seriously how often do you think this is JJ/AA v like AK, AQ? do you think he would check the flop with these hands? Would he 3 bet AJ? I doubt it. So lets put a range on him? Say he can have [AA,JJ,AK,AQ,KK,QQ]? yes? Whats your equaty if thats the range?

[marvin_1935]

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Uhm, when your opponent 3 bets pf then goes dormant on the flop this should raise some flags... are you ever good on the turn when he minraise? Seriously how often do you think this is JJ/AA v like AK, AQ? do you think he would check the flop with these hands? Would he 3 bet AJ? I doubt it. So lets put a range on him? Say he can have [AA,JJ,AK,AQ,KK,QQ]? yes? Whats your equaty if thats the range?

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,848 games 0.005 secs 369,600 games/sec

Board: Ac Js 2h 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 15.260% 15.26% 00.00% 282 0.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 84.740% 84.74% 00.00% 1566 0.00 { 9c9h }