My article about the gyroball (plus video)

[kyleb]

Allow me to introduce myself: My name is Kyle Boddy, and I love baseball. I'm 23 years old, an aspiring amateur pitcher (ex-HS/College player), living in Seattle, self-employed, and I'm not really a Red Sox fan (I know, I know). I'm an A's/Indians fan, for the most part. I run the website baseballdelusions.com, which is currently being redesigned and will contain videos, pictures, blogs, and other information about amateur players looking to get a second shot at baseball and having fun.

I pitched in high school and college, but after shoulder troubles, I moved to second base and became a converted position player. I worked very hard at it, became a relatively good hitter with plus power and good walk rates, though my speed was always a factor. In the end, I finished up at a small D-III school, had a lot of fun, and eventually called it quits. I moved out to Seattle to start a business and rediscovered the love of baseball after agreeing to coach a Little League Juniors (age 13-14) team, and gave it a second shot at a local league here called the Puget Sound Senior Baseball League (PSSBL). While there, I played second base and got a shot at pitching, where I basically embarassed myself in my one stint (2 IP, 3 BB, 1 HB, 2 K, 0 H, 1 ER, SV), but had a lot of fun.

I entered the off-season on a strict training and diet regimen and have added significant lean mass to my frame and took pitching and hitting lessons from Jeff Petersen (Fresno Grizzlies) and Justin Drake (ex-UWash OF), respectively, at their training gym called Strike-Zone.

To say that my mechanics need improvement is an understatement, but I'm ridiculously dedicated and I'm giving my all to study and understand both the physical and mental sides of baseball. My lofty goals are to play at the semi-pro level, and one day become the AGM of a baseball team.

So, what does any of that have to do with the gyroball? Good question! As a faithful reader of Baseball Prospectus, I realized that Will Carroll had been posting quite a bit about kids he had trained to throw the gyroball. On a whim, I emailed him and asked if he could train me. After some discussion and negotiation, I ended up flying out to Indianapolis to meet him and talk shop and eventually learn how to throw the gyroball. Will's a great guy, and we talked about the idiocy of the Mariners' FO (the Vidro deal was new at the time), the Cubs, and other hilariously bad teams. He showed me how to throw the gyroball and corrected a few of many of my mechanical flaws, and I flew home to Seattle.

Let me start off by saying this: At the end of the day, the gyroball isn’t just another type of pitch. Technically, it is an off-speed pitch that can be effectively used to complement a pitcher’s pre-existing arsenal; however, the gyroball is not a singular pitch. In fact, the gyroball is (at least) four different pitches that we know about. It is a concept; one that requires different mechanics altogether.

Unlike the different “styles” of the changeup, the separate variations of the gyroball have wildly different results. The different types of changeups all have the same goal – to change speeds and to disrupt the timing of the hitter using the same arm action as the fastball. Each variation of the gyroball uses the same grip and a similar arm action, but the alignment of the baseball changes in each scenario – all of them for different situations.

Will also showed me the book of the gyroball, literally translated to mean "Original Form of the Demon Ball." It looks like this:



The book reads more like a college-level physics text than it does a baseball primer book, and translations are spotty at best. However, the concepts of the book are clear – the book was written to help explain the concept of “double-spin” mechanics, where the pitcher seeks to maximize efficiency through the firing of the hips and back leg in tandem with the arm action for all pitches. Various graphs and charts describe the “sneaky fast” release point theory, which explains the correlation between reaction time allotted to the batter and what the perceived speed is (regardless of actual radar gun speed).

Unfortunately, changing kanji characters over to English text is not as simple as plugging in the literal words that the characters represent. Unlike most European languages, which often port over to English with 95%+ efficiency, Asian languages rely heavily on context, culture, and a different thought process than the dominant one in Western civilization. Simply handing the book over to a translator who knows little about advanced physics and baseball won't do me any good – the output would simply cease to make sense.

“That’s nice, but what does it do and how do I throw it?”

While I can’t explain the concept of Magnus forces on a baseball to the layperson (largely stemming from the fact that I don’t understand them fully myself), I can describe the action of the gyroball as it is commonly thrown. As with all pitches, getting the release point out in front and a smooth transfer of weight with late shoulder rotation is necessary for optimal results.

The basic grip for the gyroball is held like a football with the ball between the ear and the hand and the index and middle fingers touching a seam where they are closest together on the baseball (think: two-seam fastball, at the seams – not across the seams). The thumb is positioned directly under the baseball. The gyroball is typically thrown from the same arm slot as any other pitch. After reading these sentences, you may be envisioning a slider grip, but it’s not. The hardest part of envisioning the gyroball grip without seeing it is the ability to grasp the concept of holding a baseball like a football.

When you deliver the pitch, all the motions should be the same as a normal pitch is thrown. However, when you are bringing the arm up to speed, the wrist never breaks at the release point. After throwing the pitch, your wrist will naturally pronate, just like a circle changeup. If this is all you did when throwing the gyroball, it would be an effective off-speed pitch with similar actions to a knuckleball. However, the real “magic” of the gyroball comes when you are at the release point with your wrist locked. As you are about to release the ball and your thumb comes off the ball, pull down with your index and middle fingers, imparting true gyroscopic spin on the ball. Again, remember the analogy to throwing a football – when you throw a football, you pull down with your fingers across the laces to impart spiral spin.

As the gyroball is thrown as described above, there will be no top, bottom, or side spin – the only spin will be gyroscopic in nature. Imagine that you put a dot in the middle of the baseball where the pitcher releases the ball. This dot will remain visible to you throughout the entire pitch!

The end result of this basic gyroball is a sharp, late drop in the strike zone, not unlike a very good sinker. The spin will not be recognizable to most hitters, since no other pitch is thrown with gyroscopic force.

Variations on a Theme: Gyroball Edition

As stated before, the gyroball can be thrown with multiple variations. There are at least four variations that are known using the standard gyroball grip (the two-seam variant), but experiments are being conducted by Americans on throwing it with a four-seam grip, amongst other changes.

The four known variations of the pitch involve tilting the hand inwards/outwards or angling it down/up with slight changes in arm action for all of the pitches. By slightly changing the arm action and the tilt of the baseball, it is possible to impart slight side or top spin in combination with gyroscopic forces. In doing so, strangely different results occur, including pitches that have what seem to be unnatural late sideways movement.

Again, little is known about the pitch due to the translation issues, but work is being done to complete the entire field of research of double-spin mechanics, not just the product which happens to be the gyroball.

After spending two days of pitching lessons and throwing well over 120 pitches from the mound and flat ground with my coach, I am extremely excited to continue the work on better understanding the gyroball and double-spin mechanics as a whole. It is obvious that despite all the brilliant minds flocking to baseball, we have yet to see a good explanation for many Japanese baseball concepts. It is this disconnect that leads me to believe that we will see extremely interesting developments as the MLB and the NPB continue to share players and coaches through the posting system, but that such developments will involve thousands, if not tens of thousands of translating and understanding Japanese concepts in general.

It is my opinion that the United States’ perceived dominance of baseball is no different than the previous domination the US clearly held in another sport 20 years ago – basketball. No one believed that a foreign team could stand up to the NBA’s best American players, but that idea has been firmly defeated in recent years. In fact, disparity in baseball is rapidly closing as we speak – the Japanese team won the World Baseball Classic, despite complaints by many that the WBC was largely set-up in favor of the United States with regard to pitching rules (limiting pitch counts for all teams and potentially allowing the dominating relievers of the United States to take over games).

Hearing comments such as “Japanese pitchers don’t throw nearly as hard as American pitchers,” “The level of play in Japan is equivalent to Triple-A in the United States,” or “Let’s see how Japanese pitchers deal with real talent in the MLB,” all remind me of the days of the NBA Dream Team, where the arrogance of the United States was swiftly crushed not two decades later. It is foolish to believe that we know everything there is to know about baseball, that raw velocity is king, and that no other country will catch up to us in the future. You need only look at the nation that won the true world championship of baseball tournament to see that the balance of power is shifting.

If you have any questions about the gyroball, or comments otherwise, I'd be more than willing to answer them. Fire away, and thanks for having me!

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And, as promised, a video of yours truly throwing the gyroball (with side force):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kNRhCzUffM

[Needle77]

Terrific read Kyle. Extremely interesting, to say the least. Good luck with everything.

[TheRover]

web page you made primer, congrats.

[kyleb]

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web page you made primer, congrats.

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Ugh, so this is what Will Carroll was talking about when he said there was such negative press about the pitch.

I will drop a line at BTF, but highly doubt I'll engage in the mudslinging. It's clear they don't want to hear what I have to say.

EDIT: "It's not a slider, it's not a cutter, it's ######## that Carroll's trying to sell, like everything else at BPro."

Hahaha. Will's first comment to me when I met him was "do not [censored] sell this, or I will kill you." It's free information. Also, the jab at BP is hilarious. Yeah, they are a ton of fraudsters over there!

Kool Kyleb

At first I thought your release lagged too far behind you leg drive , and then I remebered (duuhhhh) the gyro is an off-speed pitch..... that you don't want the leg drive helping your velocity......

could be just straight on camera angle too.

Nice stuff, and good to see you got this neat chance.

Best of luck.

[HajiShirazu]

Looks like an interesting book. Maybe I will buy the book and read it, I'm a physics major and speak Japanese. From the reviews on amazon.co.jp it doesn't sound too technical. I would think a decent translator would be able to handle it, although a whole book would not be cheap at all, I tried to get into that line of work.
Looks like you're getting some nice movement. Now just throw it in the 80's like mats and we'll see you in the bigs one day.
"True form of the magic pitch" or something like "The truth behind the magic pitch" would be a better translation of the title, although "demon ball" has a nice ring to it.

[tdarko]

Kyle,

Excellent article, really great job on this.

~td

[prohornblower]

I saw some of your other videos on You Tube. Your best pitch appears to be that splitter that I saw a few times. It's hard to tell what it is, looks like a tailing fastball with extra movement or a splitter. Those pitches give me fits when I hit lefty. I also happen to throw the same pitch and it gives the righties fits when the fist it and pop up [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Note: Try positioning the camera about 12 more inches to third base side on the behind view. Enough to keep you out of the way, but not too much where you can't still see all the movement.

[kyleb]

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I saw some of your other videos on You Tube. Your best pitch appears to be that splitter that I saw a few times. It's hard to tell what it is, looks like a tailing fastball with extra movement or a splitter. Those pitches give me fits when I hit lefty. I also happen to throw the same pitch and it gives the righties fits when the fist it and pop up [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Believe it or not, that's not my splitter (I stopped throwing it in college after shoulder problems). It's simply my four-seam fastball. I've been getting a ton of movement on it lately by incorporating a lot of the Japanese double-spin mechanics.

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Note: Try positioning the camera about 12 more inches to third base side on the behind view. Enough to keep you out of the way, but not too much where you can't still see all the movement.

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Will do, thanks.

[kyleb]

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Looks like an interesting book. Maybe I will buy the book and read it, I'm a physics major and speak Japanese. From the reviews on amazon.co.jp it doesn't sound too technical. I would think a decent translator would be able to handle it, although a whole book would not be cheap at all, I tried to get into that line of work.
Looks like you're getting some nice movement. Now just throw it in the 80's like mats and we'll see you in the bigs one day.
"True form of the magic pitch" or something like "The truth behind the magic pitch" would be a better translation of the title, although "demon ball" has a nice ring to it.

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Yeah, I've heard that the translation of the title is anywhere from Demon Ball to Original Form of the Miracle Ball, or Magic Pitch, or whatever. Crazy Japanese.

Anyway, if you are interested in translating the book, let me know - I'll send you my other copy (I bought two) and I'll compensate you for your time. I know how much it costs to translate the full book from a professional service, and obviously I can't pay that, but we can figure something out.