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Old 03-23-2007, 04:08 PM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Somehow, I got to the river... VB? 50NL

Here's a typical situation where I might be starting to overthink my opponent's ability to fold. From a couple rounds, villain seems to be loose passive.

I figure there's a good chance that they hold a mid pair after the turn check behind, just about anything else reasonable will be a better hand than my 2pr except AQ. They will probably fold anything I beat, so do I value bet or not? Let them bluff at it if I check? I'm repping exactly what I have if I bet.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (BB): $71.9
UTG: $46.90
CO: $44.20
BTN: $43.80
SB: $19.8

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.75, 5 players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, UTG calls $3.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9.25, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, UTG calls $6

<font color="black">Turn:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($21.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

<font color="black">River:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($21.25, 2 players)
Hero ...
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:12 PM
Atlanta Andrew Atlanta Andrew is offline
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Default Re: Somehow, I got to the river... VB? 50NL

If villain is good, check call.

If villain is bad, bet.

-Andrew

Edit: I missed the loose-passive comment in the OP. So based on my advice above, hero bets.
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:13 PM
Leviathan101 Leviathan101 is offline
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Default Re: Somehow, I got to the river... VB? 50NL

I guess betting is fine, but I can't see anything that you beat that calls... maybe a donkey with a Queen. I'd rather C/C here, besides it also lets you see his hand, and gives you some info on what he calls your 3-bets with.

edit: andrew basically summed up my thought process
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Old 03-23-2007, 04:17 PM
danny8 danny8 is offline
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Default Re: Somehow, I got to the river... VB? 50NL

i'd bet around $14 and fold to a raise, you might get a call from a Q or low pp.. most likely you wont and they'll fold.

But i cant see them bluffing when checked to very much. He likely has a pair, which obv has some showdown value so he's prolly checking behind.
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Old 03-23-2007, 05:09 PM
Raiseren1 Raiseren1 is offline
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Default Re: Somehow, I got to the river... VB? 50NL

14$ seems way too much. Isn't 6-10$ much better? We will get called by worse hands more often, and we can lay it down if we are raised.
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