Aces vs aces vs two others $10/$20 all-in preflop- get away from it?

[luckyjimm]

I put 400 into Party last night, spun up to $2650 on $2/$4, tilted off $600, then moved up to $10/$20 and lost this monster. Biggest hand I've been in for a long time. My username there is vanHogspeuw.

Any way of getting away from this hand?


***** Hand History for Game 5802935848 *****
0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Sat Mar 24 16:03:54 EDT 2007
Table Table 126466 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: blyger99 ( $1363)
Seat 2: asdfgh73 ( $760.50)
Seat 3: Micu123 ( $1150)
Seat 4: waken ( $1773.84)
Seat 5: A55HO1E ( $1381.48)
Seat 6: Prince19861 ( $1670)
Seat 7: vanHogspeuw ( $1663.88)
Seat 8: cashmerejak ( $3858.20)
Seat 9: Byrrrr ( $2473)
Seat 10: lacala1 ( $400)
asdfgh73 posts small blind (10)
Micu123 posts big blind (20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to vanHogspeuw [ Kc, As, 9h, Ah ]
waken folds.
Prince19861 raises (70) to 70
vanHogspeuw raises (240) to 240
cashmerejak calls (240)
Byrrrr folds.
blyger99 calls (240)
asdfgh73 calls (230)
Micu123 folds.
Prince19861 raises (1390) to 1460
vanHogspeuw raises (1423.88) to 1663.88
vanHogspeuw is all-In.
cashmerejak folds.
blyger99 calls (1123)
blyger99 is all-In.
asdfgh73 calls (520.50)
asdfgh73 is all-In.
Prince19861 calls (203.88)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, Qc, 4h ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
Creating Main Pot with $3299 with asdfgh73
Creating Side Pot 1 with $1807.50 with blyger99
Creating Side Pot 2 with $601.76 with vanHogspeuw
** Summary **
Main Pot: $3299 | Side Pot 1: $1807.50 | Side Pot 2: $601.76 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Td Qc 4h 8h 5c ]

blyger99 balance $5106.50, bet $1363, collected $5106.50, net +$3743.50 [ 4c 4s 6s 3h ] [ three of a kind, Fours -- Qc,Td,4c,4s,4h ]
asdfgh73 balance $0, lost $760.50 [ Ts Jd 6d 8d ] [ two pairs, Tens and Eights -- Qc,Ts,Td,8d,8h ]

Micu123 balance $1130, lost $20 (folded)
waken balance $1773.84, didn't bet (folded)
A55HO1E balance $1381.48, sits out
Prince19861 balance $607.88, bet $1663.88, collected $601.76, lost -$1062.12 [ Tc 8s Ac Ad ] [ two pairs, Tens and Eights -- Qc,Tc,Td,8s,8h ]
vanHogspeuw balance $0, lost $1663.88 [ Kc As 9h Ah ] [ a pair of Aces -- As,Ah,Qc,Td,8h ]

cashmerejak balance $3618.20, lost $240 (folded)
Byrrrr balance $2473, didn't bet (folded)
lacala1 balance $400, sits out

[luckyjimm]

Preflop odds:

Omaha Hi Simulation
376,992 trials (Exhaustive)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
4c4s6s3h 31.03% 116,592 779
TsJd6d8d 25.88% 86,824 21,499
Tc8sAcAd 19.77% 38,848 71,397
KcAs9hAh 23.31% 62,552 50,677

Flop:

Omaha Hi Simulation
528 trials (Exhaustive)
board: TdQc4h
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
4c4s6s3h 60.23% 318 0
TsJd6d8d 17.90% 93 3
Tc8sAcAd 6.63% 28 14
KcAs9hAh 15.25% 75 11

A bit better on the turn:

Omaha Hi Simulation
32 trials (Exhaustive)
board: TdQc4h8h
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
4c4s6s3h 59.38% 19 0
TsJd6d8d 12.50% 3 2
Tc8sAcAd 3.12% 0 2
KcAs9hAh 25.00% 8 0

But of course dead on the river!

[Tim299]

Thats a joke. I would never play online for that much. Guy calling that bet with that little rundown style hand. That is a joke!!!!!!!! you played it right if I read this post right. You had to reraise to shut everyone out. They should have not called.

[CrushinFelt]

This hand makes me feel all warm inside

[luckyjimm]

Eh, why?

With hindsight, I could have folded and taken the $240 hit when the other guy with aces has put in the third raise. I guess I was hoping everyone else would fold, and my aces would beat his aces.

Oh for the flush on the river!

That guy going in preflop with 2446 probably saw Brad Booth do the same thing on $200/$400 for a $250k pot a few months back. But he has to figure aces are out which cuts his straight outs, so he's basically playing for the two fours.



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This hand makes me feel all warm inside

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[grizy]

AK and Ahxh adds enough % to your hand I'd be committed preflop. ALso, the apparent other pair of aces has a significantly large stack.

[luckyjimm]

Yeah, I flopped a gutshot too.

The main risk in these situations is that with four people in the hand, someone with a rundown hand will spike two pair. I much prefer it against one opponent.


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AK and Ahxh adds enough % to your hand I'd be committed preflop. ALso, the apparent other pair of aces has a significantly large stack.

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[luckyjimm]

Seriously though, wtf?:

blyger99 [ 4c 4s 6s 3h ] calls (1123)

I guess if you have a $50k+ roll, you'll gamble like this.

[piiop]

4c4s6s3h 31.03%

gamble like what?

[luckyjimm]

Yeah and he got almost 4/1 on his money.

I don't really understand why he's such a favourite pre-flop, though. Of the four players in the hand he's the only one who could play for a low straight, but some of these outs are gone since we have the aces. He has two outs to hit a set which of course we don't have, but he doesn't have any flush outs. So why is he such a favourite?



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4c4s6s3h 31.03%

gamble like what?

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