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Old 03-09-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default JJ v big stacks in $3r

No particular reads on these players. Button seemed quite loose, hadn't noted anything about OR and neither have been at the table long. We're ITM with something like 280 to go and I have a top 20 stack.

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t800/t1600
(Ante: t75)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t35870
UTG+1: t11132
MP1: t20610
MP2: t57825
MP3: t17990
CO: t14780
Button: t60818
Hero: t84191
BB: t6435

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to t4800</font>, 2 folds, Button calls t4800 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t7875)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: JJ v big stacks in $3r

19999 to go

or you can push
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:07 PM
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I think 19999 is going to get a call out of MP2 and Button (he'd have odds to call with a pretty big range).

I think if I'm taking a shot at this at all, I'm pushing and hoping for a race
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:08 PM
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19999 to go

or you can push

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Call a push from either but not both?

Assuming we get one caller, isn't this going to suck, playing a big pot OOP?
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:09 PM
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I think 19999 is going to get a call out of MP2 and Button (he'd have odds to call with a pretty big range).

I think if I'm taking a shot at this at all, I'm pushing and hoping for a race

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I think 20k is going to get a fold out of any smaller pair. I could be wrong. I spent a lot of this tourney in a state of shock at what people did with their chips.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: JJ v big stacks in $3r

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19999 to go

or you can push

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Call a push from either but not both?

Assuming we get one caller, isn't this going to suck, playing a big pot OOP?

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There is only going to be a psb left, so position doesn't really matter too much. Just push the flop unless its like AKQ or something really nasty.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: JJ v big stacks in $3r

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19999 to go

or you can push

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Call a push from either but not both?

Assuming we get one caller, isn't this going to suck, playing a big pot OOP?

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hmm im calling a push from one of them, and if the coldcaller is bad maybe from both.

If we get a caller it becomes a go and go. TBH i usually just shove here preflop but was giving you another possible option to go and go.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: JJ v big stacks in $3r

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I think 19999 is going to get a call out of MP2 and Button (he'd have odds to call with a pretty big range).

I think if I'm taking a shot at this at all, I'm pushing and hoping for a race

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I think 20k is going to get a fold out of any smaller pair. I could be wrong. I spent a lot of this tourney in a state of shock at what people did with their chips.

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i think in these tournaments people will call with hands like ATs, 77 etc if you raise to 20k so they can 'hit' a flop. If you push these hands will fold most of the time, but hey its the 3r and people do retarded things so pushing/raising is pretty much equal. I would usually decide based on how donkish they have played up to now
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: JJ v big stacks in $3r

Everyone had been pretty awful but these guys were newish to the table. From a couple of orbits, OR had done little, certainly nothing out of line and cold caller had been loose but decent post-flop. I pushed and wasn't really expecting a call from a wide range. CC tanked and I assumed he had TT so that was kind of my read at the time.
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