JJ flop fold with overpair... thoughts?

[TheMetetron]

Villian is 17/14/4.5 if I remember correctly. The hand is a few days old. I've gotten split repsonses from people I've asked. So far it is 2-1, but I won't say which way.

Call/fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($181.80)
Button ($197)
Hero ($201)
BB ($250.80)
UTG ($215.80)
MP ($176)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO folds, Button calls $25.

Flop: ($74) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $53</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $162</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $289

[orange]

std without history. becomes much closer with QQ.

[dchz]

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std without history. becomes much closer with QQ.

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so villian never does this with 88-TT or a flush draw?

is it -EV for a call here getting 2:1?

[dchz]

does the J of spades add much to this at all?

[Maulik]

dchz,

Nope, your equity isn't increased significantly.

[ronitonline]

Errrg
This for me is all about how I feel at the table. I think there is a lot of hands you beat that he has that just doesnt believe you. He could have AK, AQ, 88-1010.
I think this is a fold, but ingame I dont think I am doing it.

[luckybacon]

yeah i think its a fold. seems like a more tricky played kk or aa then a meduim pair

[blurredspurt]

I tend to not give button raisers much credit and in this spot would go broke, since he has high aggression factor and could easily just have 2 overs or some FD.