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Old 03-05-2007, 09:30 PM
djmeehan djmeehan is offline
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Default Stars 2/4 64s in BB- value bet river?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Villian is 25/7/.7 after about 160 hands. Basically tight and fairly passive.

I was hoping to receive feedback on this hand especially as to whether a value bet on the river is a good play here or not. I'm not sure if this is the kind of spot where I am missing value or not. Any other feedback on the hand is welcome also but I am particularly interested in peoples thoughts on my river play. I hate folding to raises on the river so I often check call in spots like these to "induce a bluff". Do I let people off to easy? My river aggression factor is much lower than my flop and turn aggression factors and don't know if this should be concerning or not.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:47 PM
counterspell counterspell is offline
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 64s in BB- value bet river?

vs. this weak villain c/c is the worst river line. you miss value when he has an unimproved ace and puts you on a flush draw, and he probably value bets 88-JJ when you check.

so yeah, c/f river.

i take check/see line on the flop as a default, but i could see this villain checking through a lot of hands he missed with, so i guess i like the donk.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:00 PM
jba jba is offline
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 64s in BB- value bet river?

i think it's super close, if there's any chance he calls with ace high you should bet. i think check/call is fine i really really doubt he has a pair here.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 64s in BB- value bet river?

Seems like a thin value bet since he'll call with ace high often enough. Then again with him having a PFR of only 7 I think your behind most of his range. Check folding the turn is a viable option against this opponent.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:38 PM
jba jba is offline
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 64s in BB- value bet river?

"Check folding the turn is a viable option against this opponent."

no way. if you can't bet this turn just fold preflop.
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 64s in BB- value bet river?

Fire. It's worth it when he calls with A high and feel owned.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Stars 2/4 64s in BB- value bet river?

Value bet. I don't like c/c this river against such a passive player. So I rank it:

1. b/f
2. c/f
3. c/c
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