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Omaha Hi/Lo Newbie, tournie advice
I eventually folded, but I really wanted to play, is there a good reason to play my hand past the flop here?
Full Tilt Poker Game #1867245646: $3,000 Guarantee (13506041), Table 12 - 30/60 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 23:48:48 ET - 2007/02/24 Seat 1: Willrr (4,825) Seat 2: shipitydoda (2,964) Seat 3: BendintheRiver (2,278) Seat 4: 1luckybum (4,142) Seat 5: SnafuPoker (1,218) Seat 6: thesungod (1,940) Seat 7: skinsiu13 (3,293) Seat 8: pockets_1117 (2,315) Seat 9: gardy (4,025) shipitydoda posts the small blind of 30 BendintheRiver posts the big blind of 60 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Willrr [3c 9h 4h 5h] 1luckybum calls 60 SnafuPoker calls 60 thesungod has 15 seconds left to act thesungod calls 60 skinsiu13 folds pockets_1117 calls 60 gardy folds Willrr calls 60 shipitydoda calls 30 BendintheRiver checks *** FLOP *** [9d 5d 6c] shipitydoda checks BendintheRiver checks 1luckybum checks SnafuPoker bets 420 thesungod raises to 1,680 pockets_1117 folds Willrr folds shipitydoda raises to 2,904, and is all in BendintheRiver folds 1luckybum has 15 seconds left to act 1luckybum calls 2,904 SnafuPoker calls 738, and is all in thesungod calls 200, and is all in shipitydoda shows [Kd 5c 5s 8d] 1luckybum shows [Kc 2s Tc Ac] SnafuPoker shows [Jc 7s Qc Jh] thesungod shows [2d 9c 2c Ad] *** TURN *** [9d 5d 6c] [7c] *** RIVER *** [9d 5d 6c 7c] [Kh] shipitydoda shows a straight, Nine high, for high 1luckybum shows a pair of Kings, for high 1luckybum shows 7,6,5,2,A, for low shipitydoda wins high side pot #2 (1,024) with a straight, Nine high 1luckybum wins low side pot #2 (1,024) with 7,6,5,2,A thesungod shows a pair of Nines, for high thesungod shows 7,6,5,2,A, for low shipitydoda wins high side pot #1 (1,083) with a straight, Nine high 1luckybum ties for low side pot #1 (542) with 7,6,5,2,A thesungod ties for low side pot #1 (541) with 7,6,5,2,A SnafuPoker shows a pair of Jacks, for high shipitydoda wins the high main pot (2,526) with a straight, Nine high 1luckybum ties for the low main pot (1,263) with 7,6,5,2,A thesungod ties for the low main pot (1,263) with 7,6,5,2,A SnafuPoker stands up *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 9,266 Main pot 5,052. Side pot 1 2,166. Side pot 2 2,048. | Rake 0 Board: [9d 5d 6c 7c Kh] Seat 1: Willrr (button) folded on the Flop Seat 2: shipitydoda (small blind) showed [Kd 5c 5s 8d] and won (4,633) with HI: a straight, Nine high Seat 3: BendintheRiver (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 4: 1luckybum showed [Kc 2s Tc Ac] and won (2,829) with HI: a pair of Kings; LO: 7,6,5,2,A Seat 5: SnafuPoker showed [Jc 7s Qc Jh] and lost with HI: a pair of Jacks Seat 6: thesungod showed [2d 9c 2c Ad] and won (1,804) with HI: a pair of Nines; LO: 7,6,5,2,A Seat 7: skinsiu13 didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: pockets_1117 folded on the Flop Seat 9: gardy didn't bet (folded) |
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Re: Omaha Hi/Lo Newbie, tournie advice
WRR1980 - This one is easy. Muck the hand before the flop.
9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is not close to being voluntarily playable at a full table, not in a tournament, not in a ring game. Buzz |
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Re: Omaha Hi/Lo Newbie, tournie advice
[ QUOTE ]
WRR1980 - This one is easy. Muck the hand before the flop. 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is not close to being voluntarily playable at a full table, not in a tournament, not in a ring game. Buzz [/ QUOTE ] agreed, you need to review O8 fundamentals and maybe research what types of hands are profitable. the person who won the hand had no business being in it either. |
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Re: Omaha Hi/Lo Newbie, tournie advice
Muck preflop, and the flop missed you badly also. If you're even tempted to continue on boards like that, it's gonna be hard to turn a profit at this game.
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Re: Omaha Hi/Lo Newbie, tournie advice
Assuming that you understand why 3459 is a crap-hand, let's assume you were playing with the thought:
'If it flops A2, I could get paid handsomely here. ' In Omaha, the chances of flopping any two card combination of cards that you are not holding is about 3%, which means that if you are going into the flop looking for only that combination, you need to get paid about 30 to 1 for your efforts. In this case, paying 60, you want to walk out with T1800 as the justification for limping this junk. Your stack is big enough that you could theoretically get paid this big, but its tough to envision a scenario where you would both scoop and get paid with all of your chips in the middle, as you'd only get action from strong highs or other 34 hands, and you're still drawing to the wheel on the A2 flop. You could almost justify this hand in Small Blind at a table of feebs, but otherwise its a clear toss. Post flop, you are way behind A2, A3, A4 and 23 for the low. It is very difficult to imagine that none of these hands are out against you. For the high side, there's a reason why they call it the idiot end of the straight. |
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