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Old 02-23-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Many draws, do we call or push?

What should my line be here, call with the great odds he gave me with the min raise or just push? I wasn't too sure. I am sure it doesn't matter much either way long term but wondering if there is one "correct" way to play this?

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SB ($55.90)
BB ($169.80)
UTG ($153.20)
Hero ($100)
Button ($59.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($10.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls or pushes?
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

I like checking the flop to see what happens.

Once he has raised, shove, because the overlay is really good and its better than check/calling a missed turn.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

Yeah, there is a good argument for checking the flop too. Say I checked, and the raiser then bets $7-8. Now what is your line? (UTG folds)
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

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Yeah, there is a good argument for checking the flop too. Say I checked, and the raiser then bets $7-8. Now what is your line? (UTG folds)

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i think stacks are perfect to checkraise and shove turn.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

thx!
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

A push here is pretty sexy. you are repping a lot of strength here and have some FE
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

Since the Ace is a non spade i would just call here couse we dont want to commit our money to a higher FD that already has a pair of Aces. Also the FE in this hand is terrible (unless hes totaly empty, which is very unlikely) so i think a call is the best play here (when you did lead the flop). Best is though a c/r on the flop since its the cheapest way to see where your at since i believe you can easy can fold if he pushes your flop c/r. If he push i believe he either has A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] x[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], AQ, AK, or
AT and you obviously dont wanna call the push when all those cards is in hes probable range.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

sorry, I never fold this hand.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

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i think stacks are perfect to checkraise and shove turn.

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If he just calls you flop c/r i do agree this is the way to play the turn, unless its a Q, T or Ace
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: Many draws, do we call or push?

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sorry, I never fold this hand.

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If you c/r the flop and he pushes, what hands are you looking to see when he flips up hes cards since you never fold?
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