FTOPS Main Event: big draw 3 way action on terrible turn

[DogTriumph]

Hi. Been lurking for a while and thought id just dive right in. I'm still learning the converter so bear with me please. This hand happened at my 1st orbit at the table, and was the first pot I entered. No one had been getting out of line as far as I could tell. This is a really tricky spot that I've been thinking about for a while and there are valid arguments for a number of lines to take here. I honestly felt totally lost here so any input is appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $80/$160
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3995
UTG+1: $14758
MP1: $15394
MP2: $2630
Hero: $11340
Button: $7670
SB: $14600
BB: $15270

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $480</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1520, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1000</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4520, 3 players)
BB checks, hero?

[APXG]

PF and flop are fine. You have to check the turn here - I'd probably fold to any sizable button bet regardless of BB action, but your draw is very foldable here considering the awful turn card and two calls on A-high flop.

You can't try to fold out an A with a check-raise w/o reads (and its Full Tilt). I'd fold any non-heart/T river(if button checks behind or if he bets small and you call), and bet/call shove if you hit.

[Cornell Fiji]

Dog, welcome to the forums!

I have gone everywhere from check to overbet shove in my thoughts on this hand and I typed out a logical justification for each play.

This is an interesting spot, I will revisit this thread later today but I wanted to bump it in the meantime.

[blockafor]

I check the flop. I think there is a very little chance of taking this down with a flop bet. On the turn, I check as well. I'm not getting cute here against 2 opponents, and you still have a legitamate draw with very good implied odds.

[Dazza1984]

Betting flop was grand. Check turn. Your draw isnt as good as it was.

[flyingmoose]

Good hand so far, check the turn.

[Bakes]

i actually like a check on this flop, worst case scenario you get a free card, and if button bets ilke 1000 himself and sb calls, you can reraise to like 5500 which just looks insanely strong.

[ROFLDONKAMENTS]

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i actually like a check on this flop, worst case scenario you get a free card, and if button bets ilke 1000 himself and sb calls, you can reraise to like 5500 which just looks insanely strong.

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LOVE THAT LINE!

[AragornX151]

That's a GREAT play, I'm with DONKAMENTS, great line Bakes. I personally probably bet the flop, but might reconsider next time. Even if one of your opponents has a real hand, you're not a huge underdog if you have to get your chips in.

[Cali4niaRaisin]

I think your def betting flop. I would def check turn (but open to suggestion)b/c if you get called on flop you will definlty get called/cr'd on turn. You're getting to see the draw for free, check.