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Old 02-17-2007, 07:31 PM
PBJaxx PBJaxx is offline
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Default Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

Have only been at the table for a few orbits, but this hand happened almost immediately. Villain is 19/16/3.4 and seems solid.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $400
UTG+1: $570.60
CO: $411.70
PBJaxx: $400
SB: $689.80
BB: $370.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) PBJaxx is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $16</font>, PBJaxx calls, 2 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($38, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $28</font>, PBJaxx calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($94, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $68</font>, <font color="#cc0000">PBJaxx raises all-in $356</font>, CO calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($806, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $806)


Results:
Final pot: $806

A few hands later this goes down. I try and take the same line to rep another set. He may not have much either as the limper is a complete drooler at 63/18. Sometimes I 3bet pf both of these hands, but I decided to call here.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $599.30
UTG+1: $808.70
PBJaxx: $404
Button: $679.80
SB: $344.20
BB: $400

Pre-flop: (6 players) PBJaxx is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $20</font>, PBJaxx calls, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($66, 3 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $54</font>, PBJaxx calls, UTG folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($174, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $108, PBJaxx raises all-in $330 </font>

How's my line?
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:50 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

I don't know if you're deep enough to fold an ace here. I don't think he's betting KK-QQ on two streets so what better hand are you really folding?
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

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I don't know if you're deep enough to fold an ace here. I don't think he's betting KK-QQ on two streets so what better hand are you really folding?

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Pretty much just an ace. That is my real question with the hand, is this deep enough?
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

I think a 2-barrel bluff is definitely a small portion of his range too, btw.
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

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I don't know if you're deep enough to fold an ace here. I don't think he's betting KK-QQ on two streets so what better hand are you really folding?

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Pretty much just an ace. That is my real question with the hand, is this deep enough?

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Well, he's getting 2.5:1ish, I don't think he folds an ace to that. I prefer calling, he'll probably check all rivers with stuff we beat, and we can stack an ace with ease if the fd comes in thanks to commitment.
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

I think he's calling
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

Okay. Thanks for the responses. He did fold, but he probably didn't have an ace then. I thought that with history, he could find a fold with an ace. Apparently, the stack sizes weren't deep enough for this to work most of the time.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

but at least you have outs and can get a hand he beats kk qq jj to fold. i like your play given the previous action. 1 exception: you know hes a fish who will NEVER fold top pair. then i just call
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

If he's solid, wouldn't he know that you're probably never slowplaying a set on that flop?
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Old 02-18-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Set over set one hand - Bluff shove a few hands later

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I don't know if you're deep enough to fold an ace here. I don't think he's betting KK-QQ on two streets so what better hand are you really folding?

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.. an ace

this hand isnt bad
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