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Old 02-12-2007, 02:54 AM
mj12 mj12 is offline
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Default 3/6 deep.. lose my kk folding virginity????

party 3/6
villain is 21/16 we have not been tangling much and he hasnt 3 bet me all session I believe
Im about 23/18 over the session
effective stacks ~190bb
hero dealt kk
6 way
hero opens in CO to 24, folded to villain on button who makes it 94, folded to me I make it 300, villain thinks for a bit and shoves.
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 deep.. lose my kk folding virginity????

I fold here and I'm not really crazy over 4betting here because most people will fold qq and shove AA.
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:58 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 deep.. lose my kk folding virginity????

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I fold here and I'm not really crazy over 4betting here


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Old 02-12-2007, 03:01 AM
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I fold here and I'm not really crazy over 4betting here


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What they said, I just call it back and play it passively/set mine.
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 deep.. lose my kk folding virginity????

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I fold here and I'm not really crazy over 4betting here because most people will fold qq and shove AA.

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This comment depends completely upon how you approach the game. If you never 4-bet, then of course that applies, but if your general game theory is much more aggressive, then it's a good play.
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 deep.. lose my kk folding virginity????

I agree. I don't really like my 4- bet either.
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does this mean I should I should 4-bet xx here under the same conditinos?
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 deep.. lose my kk folding virginity????

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I fold here and I'm not really crazy over 4betting here


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What they said, I just call it back and play it passively/set mine.

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lol. the merits of calling pf do not include 'set mining.'

i prob 4bet this pre, but i 4bet other stuff too.
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:04 AM
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I fold here and I'm not really crazy over 4betting here


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What they said, I just call it back and play it passively/set mine.

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lol. the merits of calling pf do not include 'set mining.'

i prob 4bet this pre, but i 4bet other stuff too.

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lol. yes they do. Pot control no K. No pot control K.
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:22 AM
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party 3/6
villain is 21/16 we have not been tangling much and he hasnt 3 bet me all session I believe
Im about 23/18 over the session
effective stacks ~190bb
hero dealt kk
6 way
hero opens in CO to 24, folded to villain on button who makes it 94, folded to me I make it 300, villain thinks for a bit and shoves.

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if his range is AK+,KK+ then calling is +$242.54
AKs,KK+ is -$102.15
KK+ is -$322.28

So, if he pushes AKo here then call.

rvg
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:30 AM
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party 3/6
villain is 21/16 we have not been tangling much and he hasnt 3 bet me all session I believe
Im about 23/18 over the session
effective stacks ~190bb
hero dealt kk
6 way
hero opens in CO to 24, folded to villain on button who makes it 94, folded to me I make it 300, villain thinks for a bit and shoves.

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if his range is AK+,KK+ then calling is +$242.54
AKs,KK+ is -$102.15
KK+ is -$322.28

So, if he pushes AKo here then call.

rvg

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thx.. I don't know about him pushing ak here but it looks like if he does it occasionally along with the odd QQ or the odd tilt push then my call is not too bad
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