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Old 02-08-2007, 10:11 AM
maccamack maccamack is offline
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Default QQ with serious pre-flop action

I have been at the table for about 100 hands and generally run at 23/12. The villian with the stack in this hand has been re-raising pre-flop enough to catch my eye (as in he must be doing it light), and shorty has actually been thoroughly unlucky to be where he is - he didn't reload though so take that for what you will.

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Hero ~$50 Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Button: ~$50
BB: ~$12

Pre flop: UTG folds, Hero raises to $2, Fold, Button raises to $8, SB folds, BB bet $12 and is all in.

So what do you do here?

Push to isolate shorty, call and see what the flop brings, or fold because the action isn't complete yet and re-raisy bloke can put you under more pressure?




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Old 02-08-2007, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

Push for sure, calling is horrible and you cant fold.
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

Yeah I went for push too, if this guy has been re-raising light, which is what we think then we want to shove all-in here.

Calling is bad because we will have no idea where we stand if an A or K comes out and will be OOP vs. the Big Stack Button.

Folding just seems too weak versus the short stack and a player who we believe to reraise lighter than normal.
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

Call. Push any non-AK flop.

If villian pushes over the top preflop, I'm also calling.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

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Call. Push any non-AK flop.

If villian pushes over the top preflop, I'm also calling.

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QFT
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

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If villian pushes over the top preflop...

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can villain actually push over the top?
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

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can villain actually push over the top?

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A good question I don't know the answer to.

What does QFT mean?
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

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can villain actually push over the top?

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A good question I don't know the answer to.

What does QFT mean?

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I would push if I could since I'm OOP to the live stack and a lot of A's and K's go into the muck. However, since BTN raised $6 and BB's AI is only $4 more, I think the action is closed? Is this a real hand?

QFT means quoted for truth
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

When it comes back to me it's $10 to call - I had the option to raise.

I don't know whether if I had called, whether original re-raiser would have been able to raise - having thought about it I suspect not.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: QQ with serious pre-flop action

The short stack's push all-in is less than the minimum raise and so does not re-open the action. Hero can raise if he wants to because of the Button's raise, but if Hero calls then Button's only options are call or fold, since he was the last person to put in a proper raise.
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