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Old 02-06-2007, 02:32 AM
MM_red33 MM_red33 is offline
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Default Does things like this happen everywhere?

I was playing in the local weekly tourney. About half way thru 2 friends are the only ones left to play. BB friend pushes all in, other guy asks dealer "can i show him my cards before i make my move?" Dealer says yes, guy flips over 55, his butt buddy flips over QQ and the 55 guy folds and they both laugh about it. Dealer said something about a 10min timeout.

Is this common? I think everyone at the table was a bit upset but no one really said anything.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:07 AM
Mr_Donktastic Mr_Donktastic is offline
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Default Re: Does things like this happen everywhere?

No this def isn't kosher.

I think you used to be able to table your cards when facing an all in decision but it has since been ruled out from all big tournies.

Nevertheless, I don't have a problem w/ 55 guy tabling his cards if it was a local friendly touney, but QQ guy def should not have shown his cards. The 2 friends were bascially colluding.

I'm not sure what would happen if this ever happened at an "official" tourney.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: Does things like this happen everywhere?

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I'm not sure what would happen if this ever happened at an "official" tourney.

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55 would have been told he cannot expose his cards. If he did it anyway, he'd be subject to a timeout penalty, 10 or 15 minutes spent away from the table watching his blinds get taken. If QQ also exposed his cards, same thing... into the penalty box.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:04 AM
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Default Re: Does things like this happen everywhere?

They're the only two remaining in the tournament. How are they colluding?
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:05 AM
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About half way thru

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Old 02-06-2007, 04:35 AM
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Default Re: Does things like this happen everywhere?

2 left to play hand. everyone else folded.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:06 PM
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Dealer says yes,
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Dealer said something about a 10min timeout.


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A. Not allowed. Period.
B. Dealer seemed to say it was alright before the cards were exposed
C. Dealer mentions a penalty only after he has OK'd it and they accepted his 'decision'?
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:35 PM
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They're the only two remaining in the tournament. How are they colluding?

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To the nits, collusion is just like a bogeyman under the bed. It's ALWAYS there no matter the objective facts of the matter. It's impossible to reason with them. What's concerning is that they seem to have had some effect in changing tournament rules.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:50 PM
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It's ALWAYS there no matter the objective facts of the matter.

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"objective facts of the matter"?
The post you replied to misunderstood the OP. The tournament was not down to two players, just the one hand in question had the two friends left.
So you say that in the middle of a tournament (lots of players left), it is fine for players that are heads up (and neither all-in) to show each other their cards before the hand is over?
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:52 PM
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It's ALWAYS there no matter the objective facts of the matter.

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"objective facts of the matter"?
The post you replied to misunderstood the OP. The tournament was not down to two players, just the one hand in question had the two friends left.
So you say that in the middle of a tournament (lots of players left), it is fine for players that are heads up (and neither all-in) to show each other their cards before the hand is over?

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There was no one other than those two in the hand. The idea that they could collude under those circumstances is absurd. Who would the victim be [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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