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Old 02-04-2007, 03:59 PM
halperin halperin is offline
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Default JJ, unders on flop, calls down, pots river. call?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $26.05
CO: $57.30
Button: $27.60
SB: $56.75
BB: $49.35

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.95, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.2</font>, SB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.35, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3.25</font>, SB calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $9.5</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $9.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $10.85
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:04 PM
Hank Scorpio Hank Scorpio is offline
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Default Re: JJ, unders on flop, calls down, pots river. call?

PF: Raise 1. I never understand why so many people raise less than 4xbb with hands like JJ.

Flop: Bet 1.5

Turn: Check

Action depends on what SB does.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:11 PM
Son_Of_Arathorn Son_Of_Arathorn is offline
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Default Re: JJ, unders on flop, calls down, pots river. call?

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PF: Raise 1. I never understand why so many people raise less than 4xbb with hands like JJ.

Flop: Bet 1.5

Turn: Check

Action depends on what SB does.

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What do you consider to be 'big pot' hands and how do you avoid making transparent plays pre flop with this system?
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:12 PM
halperin halperin is offline
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Default Re: JJ, unders on flop, calls down, pots river. call?

so raise 4x with JJ and up and just pot rasie pfr with other raising hands? i try to keep all the pfrs the same. isnt it too readable if u do it like that?
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:38 PM
Angrymoog Angrymoog is offline
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Default Re: JJ, unders on flop, calls down, pots river. call?

I think it's safe to vary pf raises. All yu have to do is vary and mix it up just a little for you to become unpredictable. You can even create profitable situations if you keep track of what they might assume you have based on your pf bet size.
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: JJ, unders on flop, calls down, pots river. call?

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so raise 4x with JJ and up and just pot rasie pfr with other raising hands? i try to keep all the pfrs the same. isnt it too readable if u do it like that?

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No; make it 4xBB with all raising hands, add 1BB for each limper.

Your bet on the flop was too small, 61.5% of the pot. It should be anywhere between 66.6% and 100%.

Note that on the turn when the king came you bet 75% of the pot. You're making a classic mistake of betting larger when you're more likely to be behind.

You could have exercised some pot control and seen a free card, however there is nothing wrong with being aggressive.
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