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View Poll Results: In the middle of the street?
I'm always at fault. 20 35.71%
I'm never at fault. (Short of hitting the guy with the front of my car). 30 53.57%
Other (describe) 6 10.71%
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:37 PM
johnbeans johnbeans is offline
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Default AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

This hand had me lawling so bad I timed out at one of my tables. I guess that must have been bad karma, because I proceeded to lose 2 buy-ins within the next 10 hands.

Full Tilt Poker Game #1718958379: Table Gamma (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:59:24 ET - 2007/02/02
Seat 1: kabutze ($77.65)
Seat 2: Time Ta Reload ($46.25)
Seat 3: lol pozzament ($122.05)
Seat 4: Zsolti ($87.05)
Seat 5: HRshove_n_stuff ($52)
Seat 6: benjoAA ($22.95)
HRshove_n_stuff posts the small blind of $0.25
benjoAA posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lol pozzament [9c 9h]
kabutze folds
Time Ta Reload raises to $2
lol pozzament calls $2
Zsolti folds
HRshove_n_stuff raises to $8
benjoAA folds
Time Ta Reload raises to $26.50
lol pozzament folds
HRshove_n_stuff raises to $52, and is all in
Time Ta Reload calls $19.75, and is all in
HRshove_n_stuff shows [Kc Kh]
Time Ta Reload shows [Ad As]
Uncalled bet of $5.75 returned to HRshove_n_stuff
*** FLOP *** [7d Ah 6c]
*** TURN *** [7d Ah 6c] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [7d Ah 6c Kd] [Ks]
HRshove_n_stuff shows four of a kind, Kings
Time Ta Reload shows a full house, Aces full of Kings
HRshove_n_stuff wins the pot ($92) with four of a kind, Kings
Time Ta Reload is sitting out
lol pozzament: OMG OMG
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $95 | Rake $3
Board: [7d Ah 6c Kd Ks]
Seat 1: kabutze didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Time Ta Reload showed [Ad As] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Kings
Seat 3: lol pozzament folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Zsolti (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: HRshove_n_stuff (small blind) showed [Kc Kh] and won ($92) with four of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: benjoAA (big blind) folded before the Flop

Bonus question to BBV: What is the definition of a donk bet?

HRshove_n_stuff: nice double barrell donk bet
lol pozzament: ?
HRshove_n_stuff: led into me twice
lol pozzament: How is that a donk bet?\
HRshove_n_stuff: because i had the lead
lol pozzament: lol
HRshove_n_stuff: im not criticizing your play
HRshove_n_stuff: donk bet refers to leading into the agressor
lol pozzament: I've always thought of donk bet as a very small bet in relation to the pot
HRshove_n_stuff: that would be an underbet
HRshove_n_stuff: ask your 2p2 buddys
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

wow you fail at life
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

god i spend the longest freakin time figuring out how the bad beat related to the donk bet question.
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:50 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

donking is leading into the aggressor end of story shipitktks
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:52 PM
durkahdurkah durkahdurkah is offline
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

pretty sure donk betting needs to follow this pattern:

1. you are not the PF aggressor
2. you are OOP
3. the bet is usually &lt;50% of the pot

i think a lot of people on this site have different definitions than one another, so i'm not sure asking 2p2 about this is going to help any
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:52 PM
THEOSU THEOSU is offline
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

it's also an unusually small bet, yo ftw. it's 1+2.

a pot into the PFR isn't a donk bet, but a minbet into the PFR is.
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:57 PM
HeroInBlack HeroInBlack is offline
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

What about this one...

Preflop action is irrelevant.

On the flop Player A leads, Player B raises, Player A calls. Then on the turn, Player A leads again.

That's a donk bet, too, right?

p.s. Player A NEVER folds after doing this.
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

you weren't involved in this. am i missing something?
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Old 02-02-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

That's not a donkbet.
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Old 02-02-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: AA vs KK, Ace on Flop to lock it up plz? k thx, OH NO WAI!!!

[ QUOTE ]
This hand had me lawling so bad I timed out at one of my tables. I guess that must have been bad karma, because I proceeded to lose 2 buy-ins within the next 10 hands.

[/ QUOTE ]
LOL A hand that you observed tilted you.
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