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Old 02-04-2007, 01:18 AM
Murakawa Murakawa is offline
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Default Razz from horse tourney hand

Okay, so I know i shouldn't be betting but he was just checking and I was confused! Also he made it clear he didn't know how to play razz. I guess river call is bad..

Tournament - Razz (40/80), Ante 7, Bring-In 10 (converter)

Seat 1: 1,134
Seat 2: 2,157
Hero: 1,545
Seat 4: 1,009
Seat 5: 1,284
Seat 6: 1,151
Seat 7: 1,535
Seat 8: 2,185

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 7: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.65 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (2.83 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (4.83 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks

River - (4.83 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (6.83 BB - 546)
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

Standard till the river. I muck 7th, unless he has been showing you paint in the hole a lot.
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Old 02-04-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

Muck 7th
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Old 02-04-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

Razz isn't my game and tournaments aren't my thing, but this looks OK until the river. On the river, he needs any 7, 6, 5, or 2 in the hole to beat you, and it is extremely likely that he has at least one, don't you think? He can hardly be value-betting a Nine. The chance of a bluff is nowhere near 17% or whatever.
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

Muck 7th is right. His hole card were JJ. I kept asking myself "why doesn't he bet with the better board?". He started with three cards to a J high. I guess it's possible he could have had J2 and FT shuffled the cards, but my impression from his play was that he had at least one brick in the whole, likely two.
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

Full Tilt does shuffle hole cards.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

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Full Tilt does shuffle hole cards.

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Yep, but that means he started with J3A, I guess not the worst hand, but he didn't even raise with it to try and steal. I shouldn't complain about his mistakes.

he also would have made his hand no the sixth, but he didn't bet, which doesn't make sense either.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

I don't want to seem results oriented, but I was going to disagree about mucking 7th. An 8 low is a pretty good hand and people often have less than what appears.

As for villain having AJ3 in the hole, he limped didn't he. A lot of people play limp/call, but I think he has to open raise of limp/fold on 3rd.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

People do a lot of things that don't make sense.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Razz from horse tourney hand

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People do a lot of things that don't make sense.

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I got married at 19, lasted about a year. A long miserable horrible year.

Would happily limp in with AJ3 for a year if I could trade.
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