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Old 01-31-2007, 06:28 PM
Semtex Semtex is offline
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Default I gotta call this or easy fold?

No read on villain, but this is a pretty typical situation. Tournament is the Stars $10+RB:

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t3975)
UTG+1 (t12670)
MP1 (t4595)
MP2 (t6445)
CO (t24435)
Hero (t7730)
SB (t5305)
BB (t7050)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t375</font>, SB calls t300, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t900) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t600</font>, SB calls t600

Turn: (t2100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t2100) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t1050</font>, Hero ???
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:31 PM
Flatlanman3 Flatlanman3 is offline
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

Villian only has 2 possible hands, complete air( J-9, J-Q, A-J, A-Q, etc etc busted straight) or the T.
In this situation im thinking villians gonna show you the ten more times than not, and unless you have history of him leading out missed draws numerous times on the river, im thinking folding is the right move more times than not .
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

Gotta call pot odds
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

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Villian only has 2 possible hands, complete air( J-9, J-Q, A-J, A-Q, etc etc busted straight) or the T.
In this situation im thinking villians gonna show you the ten more times than not, and unless you have history of him leading out missed draws numerous times on the river, im thinking folding is the right move more times than not .

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I love how you say he could have 2 possible hands, then list 5+.

Anyway, so far you look pretty weak. You c-betted and then gave up. Gotta call the river, you're ahead very often.
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Old 01-31-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

Your check behind on the turn kicked the door open for a river bluff on his part. You're getting 3-1 and your opponent could very easily believe you don't have the King. Call, and if he shows you the ten, shame on him for not betting the turn.

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Old 01-31-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

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Your check behind on the turn kicked the door open for a river bluff on his part. You're getting 3-1 and your opponent could very easily believe you don't have the King. Call, and if he shows you the ten, shame on him for not betting the turn.

--TFGoose

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Would you bet this turn if you were hero?
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

Blind is 150, you led out with 375, standard would have been 450-600 (3-4x). Could have easily looked like a steal attempt. On the flop you did a C bet, villian could have called with a multitude of hands including A high.

Your check on the turn could have reinforced his thought that you were on a steal, did a C bet, and have now given up.

River comes and he does a very reasonable bet. If he has the 10 I think he bets out smaller. Maybe a quarter of the pot to look like a probe/steal, hoping you come over the top. I don't think he has the 10. I call due to the pot odds.

(semtex - I would have continued with a bet on the turn, but that's why I work a day job [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]).
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

I play the same (with a river call). It's relatively WA/WB with the exception of a few straight draws. But I think the # times he bluffs a missed draw or value bets a worse hand outweigh the chance that he hits his 4-1 or 10-1 draw (if he even has one).
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

First you have to call, but you need to look at it this way. You more than likly got the best value for the hand vs. villians likely holdings when your ahead here and lost the least when behind.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: I gotta call this or easy fold?

I like the 2.5xBB preflop raise. I usually do it, it keeps the pot small while you are in control. I think checking the turn is good b/c 1) keeps the pot small in these kind of WA/WB situations 2) opens up door for river bluff. I think you should call the river bet but from my experience, big river bets OOP usually means a strong hand. I guess you will see T more often than not but still you are getting 3-1 so you should call.
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