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Old 01-26-2007, 10:59 AM
b33nz b33nz is offline
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Default top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

no reads. do i go broke because of his stack size? (and yes, of course he had QT, duh)

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$3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
UTG: $3801.45
CO: $1122.25
BTN: $453
SB: $591
Hero (BB): $633.75

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q 3 ($9, 5 players)
UTG calls $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, SB folds, Hero checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($21, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, UTG calls $15, <font color="red">BTN raises to $45</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $170</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises all in to $447</font>, Hero calls $277
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:05 AM
Moonshine Moonshine is offline
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

i dont like your flop 3 bet
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

yea vs. a shorty i would play it the same.
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:56 PM
MrTeddyKGB MrTeddyKGB is offline
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

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i dont like your flop 3 bet

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why not?
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:04 PM
MrTeddyKGB MrTeddyKGB is offline
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

[ QUOTE ]
Stack Sizes
UTG: $3801.45
CO: $1122.25
BTN: $453
SB: $591
Hero (BB): $633.75

Preflop: Q 3 ($9, 5 players)
UTG calls $6, CO folds, BTN calls $6, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: Q T 3 ($21, 3 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG calls $15, BTN raises to $45, Hero raises to $170, UTG folds, BTN raises all in to $447, Hero calls $277

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i get it in on flop and feel good about it.
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

hmm only hands that worry us are q10 or 1010, i think there are enough other hands like flush draw + overcards or oesd he might have here... also 1010 should raise pf.
i think its ok to go all in here.
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:26 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

OMG FOLD HE HAS QT


I would bet out more, originally, but I play it the same, otherwise.
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:55 PM
TWINUNO TWINUNO is offline
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

BTN's stack isnt really that short. HE isnt less then half. Your 3rd bet is bad becuase your folding alot of hands that your ahead of, and it just puts you in tough spot when he comes over the top. I prob would have got it all in on the flop too but did you really expect to see aq here?
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:05 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

i norm call the flop raise and c/r turn. (good ones) way it was played there is an argument for folding to the final raise but its a bad one.
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Old 01-27-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: top & bottom pair, do i go broke?

i 3bet bc UTG is still in the hand. i didnt want to call and tag him along on such a coordinated board with such a vulnerable hand. any T/spade/high card is a bad card esp. against 2 villains.

also going for a CR if UTG tags along is bad since BTN isnt going to fire a 2nd barrel that doesnt beat T&amp;B pair.

i think the only other reasonable line is calling BTNs raise and betting out on any non T turn.
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