Raymer's 2005 WSOP Bust

jk3a · #1 02-02-2007, 01:46 PM

I'm sure this was discussed some time ago and if someone could post a link for me, that would be great. I was watching a rerun yesterday of the hand that crippled Raymer when he got most of his money in against Canter. As a disclaimer, I realize that Canter is a donkey, but could someone provide some insight here please.

Greg opens KK, Canter coldcalls QJs.

Flop: 356r
Greg bets, Canter calls

Turn:7 (possible heart draw)
Greg bet/3bets AI over Canter's raise...

Sorry if this is in the archives. I just couldn't find it.

johnnyrocket · #2 02-02-2007, 02:39 PM

well his preflop call is a little weak but Greg was a bully so that allows for it to be an easy preflop call. Greg pushes hard also so I can see why Canter would reraise the turn. However, his flop call is awful, raise or fold when you have queen high.

johnnyrocket · #3 02-02-2007, 02:40 PM

his all in call to raymers 3-raise is just abominable, u cannot get ne worse than that, its ashame someone like him made money but he will donate it back to us through online play.

jk3a · #4 02-02-2007, 02:45 PM

How did Greg insta 3bet push this turn is my question?

selurah · #5 02-02-2007, 02:45 PM

You can read Raymer's thoughts on this particular hand 8 or 9 paragraphs down in this thread:

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/show...o=93&fpart=

jk3a · #6 02-02-2007, 02:54 PM

thanks

legend42 · #7 02-03-2007, 12:57 PM

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his all in call to raymers 3-raise is just abominable, u cannot get ne worse than that

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Actually, the all-in call might have been the only thing he did right in that hand.

MCS · #8 02-03-2007, 03:53 PM

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his all in call to raymers 3-raise is just abominable, u cannot get ne worse than that

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What? As Legend42 points out, it's obviously not "abominable," and it's likely CORRECT.

alphatmw · #9 02-03-2007, 05:28 PM

PF call.. fine
flop call.. float, fine whatever. not a great play but not disastrous.
turn raise.. raymer has shown so much strength here that i think he should of realized he couldn't take this away.
turn call.. did he have pot odds? this is an easy question depending on the numbers.

pig4bill · #10 02-05-2007, 01:39 AM

He was on a monster card rush. He may have decided he was going to play every good draw until it was over.