to showdown or not to showdown

[jstill]

3/6

not really sure bout this one

villain ive seen on a bit but he doesn't play a ton i don't think.

here are my notes on him, not very extensive:
sb vs bb he raised A9 in sb bet AT5 ck called the 5 turn

as pfr ck AK on 9 7 2 vs bb, called turn donk on 7 ck'd behind on river after ck

raised A882 with flopped flush draw that hadnt gotten there yet in blind battle as bb with Q7s

villain raises in CO, hero 3bets 66 in sb, bb folds, villain calls

flop 8s 5s 2
hero bets, villain raises, hero calls

turn T
hero cks, villain bets, hero calls

river Qs
hero cks, villain bets, hero folds

[Wolfram]

River is definitely a fold.

I'm even tempted to throw this away on the turn because if he has the FD he also has 2 overs, but I guess a calldown is good given opponents tendency to bet his draws aggressively but his top pairs less so.

[danzasmack]

Based on all of the above I think the river fold is fine. Not sure if you can fold the turn.

[bbbushu]

i think you could probably fold the turn but it isn't too bad to wait until the river.

nh

[Kwaz]

You wouldn't call the flop raise and check the turn with any real hand on this board. There's no real advantage to playing passively here. Your hand is so vulnerable that you lose next to nothing by folding out bluffs.
If I was going to continue in this hand past the turn, I'd take the initiative back and 3bet the flop or stop n' go.

[jstill]

yeah what i wasnt sure about wasnt just the river decision but the whole line.

I dont think I never call a flop raise and ck the turn here, i could go for a check-raise with quite a few hands overpairs sets maybe a fd altho I'd 3bet them most of the time for sure (not the fd tho). there really arent many strong hands id check call the turn with tho here, but does that mean hes expecting me to fold those on the river so hes always betting the river even when its paint and the flush hits?

I thought about 3betting the flop again here which almost never comes to my mind with less than TP but i still have never done it so i didnt wanna just spew here randomly or something if it wasnt a good line.

donking the turn was an option, it probably would be good here with a particularly vulnerable hand. Is that what u would do kwaz bet fold the turn here? What rivers are we bet folding or ck calling or ck folding ect if just called on the turn?