monster pot oop

aejones · #1 01-19-2007, 08:00 PM

Villian in this hand is SmokedYou. My read on him is a pretty solid TAG 23/14, we have no hardcore history, I think I've run well vs him and beat him some HU after tables broke. He prob views me as pretty good.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($954.70)
SB ($134)
Hero ($793.50)
UTG ($258.85)
MP ($566.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $48, Button calls $32.

Flop: ($98) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $65, Button calls $65.

Turn: ($228) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $164, Hero calls $164.

River: ($556) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $677.7 (All-In),

OK so KT hit and other draws missed. I don't think he's got missed clubs becuase he bet the turn hard. A pure float would be kind of crazy here on that board with our stacks, I can't really see him doing that. I think he can maybe have 99, and definitely JJ. I read his bet size on the turn as strong, same with river push. Do I have to call given how I got there? My obvious concerns are that he can be value betting a worse hand.

xorbie · #2 01-19-2007, 08:05 PM

well you beat KQ and QT

restrikt · #3 01-19-2007, 08:05 PM

From villain's point of view, I think most Qx hands lead turn, if not raise.

As such, your hand looks a lot like AJ or so, or maybe 910 clubs or w/e.

Unless you think villain is never capable of pushing if he senses weakness, I probably call here.

mike0292 · #4 01-19-2007, 08:12 PM

snap call

Eagles · #5 01-19-2007, 08:14 PM

Your hand here looks really weak villain definetely could have air here.

wpr101 · #6 01-19-2007, 08:18 PM

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Your hand here looks really weak villain definetely could have air here.

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For this reason I like your call here. Your hand is pretty under represented. I would being playing any queen for value if I was villian.

schwza · #7 01-19-2007, 08:20 PM

i definitely do not fold here.

gman06 · #8 01-19-2007, 08:24 PM

easy call, but I would lead the turn w/ your image against this guy

callme · #9 01-19-2007, 08:40 PM

After villians bet on the turn and hero´s call you can be pretty sure that villian is putting you on a Q with a obv. strong kicker since the RR out of the BB. Assuming he puts you on KQ or AQ he probably knows you have a hard time folding that river and he is just happyily shoving his hand that most likely beats you here since it looks more like a value shove than anything else.

Considering your stack sizes you really need a lot of chuzpe trying to push hero of a Q with good kicker on the river - you dont see that kind of move at this level too much from normal players.

Further his possible range that beats you in this spot is really wide, QJ, JJ, 99 and KT even i think KT might gonna go a bit more slow on the river since the board is paired.

DJ Sensei · #10 01-19-2007, 08:46 PM

call.

i lead turn too.