30/60 Wynn Part II

[Bicycles_Biatch]

Same table as previous post...

Limp, Limp, Tourist (women who is very-weak tight but sometimes makes the weirdest call downs) raises, I 3-bet on the button with 10-10.

BB calls, both limpers call.

Flop 2,3, 8 two spades.

Check, Check, Check, Female tourist bets.

I raise.

BB fold, fold, one limper calls, Tourist calls.

PROBLEM: from what I've seen so far from the female tourist, she could literally be taking this line with KK (fearful of my AA) or with a red A-J (no draw). She is playing very weird. I put the Limp caller on either a small set or a Q-J type flush draw.

Turn is a great card for me, red 7.

Limper checks, now the women donks into me. I'm so lost but think I need to raise her range of hands here.

I raise.

Limper folds, female tourist calls.

River is a Jack.

She checks, I check (whoops).

She turns over 99. I scoop a monster.

[Bicycles_Biatch]

PS... if at anytime the limper who saw the turn check-raise both of us... this is an easy fold, right?

PPS... if the women 3 bets me on the turn... again, easy fold right?

[jba]

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PS... if at anytime the limper who saw the turn check-raise both of us... this is an easy fold, right?

PPS... if the women 3 bets me on the turn... again, easy fold right?

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yes to both of these, and I think you played this hand fine.

I actually think you might be a bit of a dog when she bets into you on the turn, but the raise is good to charge the limper.

[MitchL]

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PS... if at anytime the limper who saw the turn check-raise both of us... this is an easy fold, right?

PPS... if the women 3 bets me on the turn... again, easy fold right?

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Yes and Yes. I think you might as well follow through if checked to on river. If she spiked a J she spiked a J, but she will never cr it so you only lose a bet. I like the turn play only because she is "weird." When you say weak touristy type, that alone makes the turn a call, but I know the type you are talking about here and think a turn raise is correct.

[thirddan]

nice hand...

[private joker]

One question, B_B: why do you keep posting results?

[blindside]

you're definately a dog to her range if she is really weak-tight.... most don't raise 99 after 2 limpers... and most will limp with something like JJ....

i would have played it exactly the same... turn check is probably right.... i would have guessed JJ-KK....

[Bicycles_Biatch]

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One question, B_B: why do you keep posting results?

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Because it's been a long time since I posted about actual poker hands (I've been trolling around politics and OOT forums).... so I forgot that it was customary NOT to post results.

[W. Deranged]

My only thought is, as you acknowledge, this is a river value bet. If she is liable to call down a lot of weird A high hands, you should find a bet here.

I think the flop and turn raises are both necessary.

[n.s.]

I like it, including the river check. I think after the turn donk, you are likely behind, but since you'd have to call the river if you call the turn, you might as well charge the limper, take a free showdown, and get there for the same number of bets.

You said she makes some wierd calldowns, but you didn't mention any weird bouts of aggression - I think after the turn donk you have to put her on a made hand (and it's not A7s). I think that JJ or QQ is her most likely holding, so I like the river check.

But maybe I'm weak-tight myself.