JJ in sb facing an all in..

EssencE · #1 01-12-2007, 02:49 AM

Live tourney $250 buy in.. winner take all.. 23 players..4k+ for the winner
172,500 chips in play

7 handed..

Im in the SB ~ 32,000 chips
BB ~ 15,000
UTG ~ 12,000 ( I consider him equally as good as me )
MP ~ 35,000 ( Donk )
MP ~ 20,000 Average kinda tight
Cutoff ~ 15,000 ( Good but I think Im better )
Button ~ 50,000 ( I consider him a better player than me )

Reason I mentioned everybody is I think it plays a factor whether I fold this hand or call..

Blinds 1000 / 2000 100 Ante

Cutoff limps..
Button goes all in
I have JJ in the SB

What should I be doing here..

From playing with button a lot.. Im pretty confident he's got AK..

Is this a Call? Fold?

10 mins left in this level.. 20 min blind levels next level is 1500/3000 200 Ante

kaisersose62 · #2 01-12-2007, 03:18 AM

call

EssencE · #3 01-12-2007, 03:24 AM

You dont think I can find a better spot than to race here?? I mean I was damn confident he had AK..

themobfather · #4 01-12-2007, 03:30 AM

you have to win the tournament to get anything
you have a chance to cripple and double through the only player better than you
you are a favorite against what you are pretty confident he has.
there is no reason not to call

EssencE · #5 01-12-2007, 03:35 AM

[ QUOTE ]
you have to win the tournament to get anything
you have a chance to cripple and double through the only player better than you
you are a favorite against what you are pretty confident he has.
there is no reason not to call

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea I played it like a little girl..and folded.. He showed AKclubs..

I think im being too results oriented as i've bubbled quite a few tourneys lately in a similar situation.. In retrospect I think you're right I guess I should've called..

But at the time I was thinking I know I can find a better spot than this 51/49..

kaisersose62 · #6 01-12-2007, 03:41 AM

well, i guess you may find another spot but its unlikely. Despite your decent stack size your M is still only about 5 which is time to do something. To me, buttons push looks like a steal...but you know how he plays so, it very well may be AK....thats the most reasonable assumption. IMO I could see him doing this with a decent range of hands though. The thing is ....this is a winner take all tourny...correct? So you HAVE to be playing to win. And to do that you need a big stack. So I would take my small edge here and gamble. If you win this pot you have the table crushed...if not, well you live to fight another day. Either way this is a tough spot to be in and Im sure others will disagree, so you'll have to wait and get some more responses.

EssencE · #7 01-12-2007, 03:48 AM

^^ Funny thing is.. two hands later in the cutoff I raised 3X BB with K9 of diamonds (30,000 chips).. BB called (had approx 35,000 chips ).. flop came K 8 9 rainbow.. He went all IN.. barely had me covered I called.. showed KJ my hand held up.. became chip leader.. went card dead..and 30 mins later lost AQ to AA and walked away in 4th place.. Live poker is soo rigged.. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Jay S · #8 01-12-2007, 03:58 AM

Knowing nothing about the button, I call in a heartbeat. If you have some high probability of him having AK, well... that's a race with a non-trivial overlay against the other big stack (a very good player) in a winner-take-all tourney. Seems like a definite call.

CO's open-limp seems awful to me, btw.

shaundeeb · #9 01-12-2007, 04:09 AM

LOL thread.

mikeJ · #10 01-12-2007, 06:34 AM

Dude, you gave button a ridiculously narrow range. Did you forget about AQ/AJ? 77? 22? It's possible that after a couple hours you could say his range is weighted towards AK, but simply saying that he has exactly AK and never has anything else is really bad poker thinking. I doubt you had such a stellar read that you can say that he has a 0% chance of having 77. This is a very easy call. And if he physically turned up his cards and showed you that he had AKs, you should instacall.