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Old 01-10-2007, 12:33 PM
jkkkk jkkkk is offline
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Default massive laydown 2/4

Hand immediately before this one:

Villain opens utg, I call in the BB and cr him on a Q high drawy board, he folds. Villain is a solid 20/10 regular tag, he probably views me the same. We are 600 deep.

BN limps, I make 16 w/ KK, villain makes it 52, BN folds, I make it 152, he pushes, I fold.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

i would like to know more of what was going through you're head while you butchered this hand.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

I think you're much better of calling PF against this guy. You need him or you to have a wide 4-bet range here, or some history in order to make it a good play with KK IMO.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

It probably costed you more than folding next 5 times you got AA preflop would.
Ok I probably overestimated hwo bad it is.
Anyway to provide something constructive you need to catch him without AA there about 30% of the time to show profit.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

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i would like to know more of what was going through you're head while you butchered this hand.

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The plan was to get it in on most flops after he called my 4-bet, never saw a 5-bet coming...
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

this is kinda obvious, but with 100bb stacks you cannot fold this hand after 4-betting. Call the reraise if you want to be a vag.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

after he called your 4 bet? then you want to get the rest in on flop? that is no different than calling his push.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

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i would like to know more of what was going through you're head while you butchered this hand.

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The plan was to get it in on most flops after he called my 4-bet, never saw a 5-bet coming...

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this is faulty logic. you thought he would only call ur 4-bet with worse hands, and only push with aa? imo, it should be the other way around. a 5-bet is much less scary than a call of the 4-bet.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:44 PM
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1. It is 150BB deep.

2. It is very different.
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Old 01-10-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: massive laydown 2/4

before I do this I need a pat read on how this guy plays AK or JJ and you better be sure its pat b/c your getting 7:4 on the call.
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