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Old 01-10-2007, 03:15 AM
darnold305 darnold305 is offline
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Default 100 NL Slowplay?

Before I'm ridiculed for such a blasphemous suggestion let me explain my reasons.

Villain's likely holdings: Qx, 10 J, any pair 10 10 J J etc... other junk

If he has a Q I will stack him either way, if I bet will raise. If I check he will be the river and I will raise. Either way we get it in.

10 J: I check, he hits his straight on the river, we get it in. He misses but decides the only way he can win is to bluff... more money than folding him out on the turn

Any PP. or air that gets a pair on the river. A river bet will look like a bet and will be more likely to get paid off by this range of hands.

Comments? If I should bet... what size bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($99.50)
MP ($99.90)
Button ($118.75)
SB ($273.45)
Hero ($100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, UTG calls $5, MP calls $5, SB calls $5.

Flop: ($24) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, SB calls $14.

Turn: ($52) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets ????
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:27 AM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL Slowplay?

i make it 30 giving me a nice potsized bet come river (edit: im tired and cant read obv. is doesnt leave a potsized bet but what ever, i still think 30 is a good bet size ).
as you said if he has the Q he's getting stacked either way, unless he fills up himself of course.
see it from villains perspective, 30 is a pretty good price if he is on some goofy draw. if he hits he almost has to stack off. same thing with 1010/JJ that might see the Q as a good card making it less likely you have trips.

the drawback of slowplaying is rather obvious, JJ/1010 hands are quite happy going to a cheap showdown. draws might call bets making them commited if they hit. build the pot yaddiyadda
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:29 AM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL Slowplay?

if villain is crazy agro and has air here a vast majority of the time i miiiiight contemplate a check giving him rope to hang himself. you didnt mention any reads tho
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL Slowplay?

no reads yet
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:34 AM
shpanko shpanko is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL Slowplay?

yeah just bet. If he has a draw you still want to "charge him" (even though he's drawing dead). because if he misses he might very well just c/f the river in which case you missed a bet. Just bet and hope he has a Q or calls you down light / with a draw. I think there are a lot more pros to betting than there are cons.
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Old 01-10-2007, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: 100 NL Slowplay?

ok you win, I bet 25 and he folded, that's why I asked

slowplaying is only something to be theorized, never done in real play lol

thanks
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