hand evaluation on flop please~

[Oden\'s Hammer]

PokerStars Game #7727878005: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/01/02 - 11:46:59 (ET)
Table 'Bouzareah' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: XBaDxKiTTyX ($7.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Karabeej ($43.45 in chips)
Seat 3: HenricoHomb ($113.60 in chips)
Seat 4: MiniMac_BC ($29.85 in chips)
Seat 5: tommyboy1051 ($18.05 in chips)
Seat 6: davedill ($27.60 in chips)
Seat 7: ministern ($107.50 in chips)
Seat 8: stupendous01 ($45.70 in chips)
Seat 9: djjeffypoo ($48.30 in chips)
tommyboy1051: posts small blind $0.25
davedill: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stupendous01 [As Ts Qc 6h]
ministern: calls $0.50
stupendous01: calls $0.50
djjeffypoo: folds
XBaDxKiTTyX: calls $0.50
Karabeej: folds
HenricoHomb: folds
MiniMac_BC: raises $0.50 to $1
tommyboy1051: folds
davedill: folds
ministern: calls $0.50
stupendous01: calls $0.50
XBaDxKiTTyX: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [5s 9s Jh]
ministern: checks
stupendous01: checks
XBaDxKiTTyX: bets $4.55
MiniMac_BC: raises $4.55 to $9.10
ministern: raises $27.30 to $36.40
stupendous01: raises $8.30 to $44.70 and is all-in
XBaDxKiTTyX: calls $2.20 and is all-in
MiniMac_BC: calls $19.75 and is all-in
ministern: calls $8.30
*** TURN *** [5s 9s Jh] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [5s 9s Jh 8s] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ministern: shows [Jd 7d Js 9c] (three of a kind, Jacks)
stupendous01: shows [As Ts Qc 6h] (a flush, Ace high)
stupendous01 collected $31.70 from side pot-2
MiniMac_BC: mucks hand
stupendous01 collected $64.85 from side pot-1
XBaDxKiTTyX: mucks hand
stupendous01 collected $30.20 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $129.75 Main pot $30.20. Side pot-1 $64.85. Side pot-2 $31.70. | Rake $3
Board [5s 9s Jh 8s 4d]
Seat 1: XBaDxKiTTyX mucked [Kd 9d 5c Tc]
Seat 2: Karabeej folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: HenricoHomb folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: MiniMac_BC (button) mucked [Kh 3d 6c Kc]
Seat 5: tommyboy1051 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: davedill (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: ministern showed [Jd 7d Js 9c] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 8: stupendous01 showed [As Ts Qc 6h] and won ($126.75) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: djjeffypoo folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I'm assuming that ministern most likely has a set of jacks...

I have the nut flush draw with an OESD...

This gives me a possibility of having 17 outs more like 10 to 14 I'm guessing.

I've never used pokerstove. I'm guessing I could plug in the hand there?

Thanks for any help!

[Hattifnatt]

I am not giving you numbers here but your play was very standard. nh.

[liquid]

Are you asking for odds on the flop? If so, you can use twodimes.net.

Main pot:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2281924
pokenum -o jd 7d js 9c - as ts qc 6h - kd 9d 5c tc - kh 3d 6c kc -- 5s 9s jh
Omaha Hi: 528 enumerated boards containing 9s 5s Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 9c Jd 7d 243 46.02 285 53.98 0 0.00 0.460
As Ts Qc 6h 228 43.18 300 56.82 0 0.00 0.432
Tc 5c Kd 9d 39 7.39 489 92.61 0 0.00 0.074
Kc 6c 3d Kh 18 3.41 510 96.59 0 0.00 0.034

Side pot 1:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2281925
pokenum -o jd 7d js 9c - as ts qc 6h - kh 3d 6c kc -- 5s 9s jh
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 9s 5s Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 9c Jd 7d 366 54.95 300 45.05 0 0.00 0.550
As Ts Qc 6h 274 41.14 392 58.86 0 0.00 0.411
Kc 6c 3d Kh 26 3.90 640 96.10 0 0.00 0.039

Side pot 2:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2281909
pokenum -o jd 7d js 9c - as ts qc 6h -- 5s 9s jh
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 9s 5s Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 9c Jd 7d 462 56.34 358 43.66 0 0.00 0.563
As Ts Qc 6h 358 43.66 462 56.34 0 0.00 0.437

Standard.

[liquid]

Side pots with dead cards accounted for:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2281928
pokenum -o jd 7d js 9c - as ts qc 6h - kh 3d 6c kc -- 5s 9s jh / tc 5c kd 9d
Omaha Hi: 528 enumerated boards containing 9s 5s Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 9c Jd 7d 276 52.27 252 47.73 0 0.00 0.523
As Ts Qc 6h 234 44.32 294 55.68 0 0.00 0.443
Kc 6c 3d Kh 18 3.41 510 96.59 0 0.00 0.034

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2281929
pokenum -o jd 7d js 9c - as ts qc 6h -- 5s 9s jh / tc 5c kd 9d kc 6c 3d kh
Omaha Hi: 528 enumerated boards containing 9s 5s Jh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Js 9c Jd 7d 294 55.68 234 44.32 0 0.00 0.557
As Ts Qc 6h 234 44.32 294 55.68 0 0.00 0.443

[plako]

I would do the same as you did. I wouldn't fold and 8 is too little to consider folding even if the board pairs on turn so I would raise all in on flop.

[Oden\'s Hammer]

Thanks for your replies everyone!

Cheers~

[JackInDaCrak]

[ QUOTE ]
I have the nut flush draw with an OESD...

This gives me a possibility of having 17 outs more like 10 to 14 I'm guessing.


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Remember that when you're calculating outs you can't count the same card twice - The NFD+OESD draw has a maximum of 15 outs, because two of your OESD cards are also flush cards.

When you get a lot of action like you did here you might also want to discount some of your outs, because other people will either have a set or have some of your outs in their hands (if they have a lower FD or a different straight draw).

[wazz]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have the nut flush draw with an OESD...

This gives me a possibility of having 17 outs more like 10 to 14 I'm guessing.


[/ QUOTE ]

Remember that when you're calculating outs you can't count the same card twice - The NFD+OESD draw has a maximum of 15 outs, because two of your OESD cards are also flush cards.

When you get a lot of action like you did here you might also want to discount some of your outs, because other people will either have a set or have some of your outs in their hands (if they have a lower FD or a different straight draw).


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Discounting outs? That's a mugs game [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[blopp]

Superstandard hand /flop play.

- B