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Old 01-05-2007, 07:45 PM
darnold305 darnold305 is offline
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Default 100 NL, 2 tough hands back to back

I knew I was supposed to fold this hand, I just couldnt figure out when, my guess is the turn?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($274.50)
MP ($105.05)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($538.80)</font>
Button ($95.50)
SB ($116.80)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($100)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($18.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($34.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

River: ($94.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $53 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $53.

Final Pot: $200.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ac Ks (one pair, aces).
Hero has Qs Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins $200.50. </font>

Same orbit, the villain had just typed this into the chat
:villain said, "you're playing soft air mcc"
villain was 38/27/3 yet he was winning
I 3 bet him light a bunch but he always folded... advice?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($274.50)
SB ($103.05)
Hero ($438.80)
UTG ($98)
MP ($116.30)
CO ($197)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $49</font>, Hero calls $34.

Flop: ($98.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $74</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $172.50
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL, 2 tough hands back to back

Hand 1: Without a heart (or a read) I fold the turn.

Hand 2: looks standard.
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:53 PM
MasterLJ MasterLJ is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL, 2 tough hands back to back

Hand 1: Fold turn, think about the range you beat compared to the range that re-pops you

Hand 2: Shove or fold pre-flop. Given stacks I'm heavily leaning towards folding. Putting half a buy-in in the middle even deepstacked with only a 1/3rd chance of hitting anything is just giving away money.
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:57 PM
GrandMelon GrandMelon is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL, 2 tough hands back to back

Hand 1 Im probably folding the turn

Hand 2 I might even fold to his 4 bet as I wouldnt want to be involved in a potential 540bb pot with AK.
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Old 01-05-2007, 07:59 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default Re: 100 NL, 2 tough hands back to back

Yeah I didn't look at stacks in hand 2. I'd fold it to the 4bet.
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