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Old 01-05-2007, 12:34 AM
Kwaz Kwaz is offline
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Default 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

Loosest table I've played in ages.
Villian is loose as well.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)


Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
4 players
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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:53 AM
Gib Gib is offline
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

against lp's I tend to bet into them &amp; fold as soon as I see any action from 'em.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

I think I'd rather bet and calldown even a raise in hand 2 than invest another dime in hand 1.

How loose is loose for villan?

The ten is a worse card than the nine in the two examples because any broadway card on the river ruins our life in the first hand, but in hand 2 a J or a Q only maybe ruins our life in the second.

I certainly believe we'll win more money in hand 2 as well as just about any hand under the sun is calling us down at this point and villan would probably require 5 6 or J Q to raise us and a much broader range calls down with less than top pair. Pot is still small in hand 1, we're behind to any A or Q, plus as I said there are appx. 15 cards left that make a value bet or even a check on the river a potential circus. Not so in hand 2 as we can bet anything and fold if raised on a river J or Q maybe.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

1 seems like a checkfold. 2 seems like a betfold.
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Old 01-05-2007, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

Against loose passives and unknowns I keep betting these for value until facing resistance.
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

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1 seems like a checkfold. 2 seems like a betfold.

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Old 01-05-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

Bet both hands. They are loose, so they call flops with gutshots, lower PP, underpairs, bdfd's etc.

Fold to any resistance in both hands, although hand 2 is debatable but a fold in my eyes vs. a raise.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

if hes loose as hell hand 1 gets tougher, but for Bullitos saying bet since he ll call with gutshots, underpairs, bdfds (even though there wasnt a reason to believe hed be EXTREMELY loose and will call with the latter two) are u expecting him to fold underpairs on the turn and if called whats ur river plan he could have called again with a bdfd or a hand like K10? i think the risk of not showing down even when we're best coupled with the times we re beat lean me towards ck/fold, is this an OK way to think about the hand or not? plus the pot is small. if he checks the turn thru id probably make a vb though despite our kicker problems since if we check again i think he bets better Qs anyways but not as many worse hands as he calls with.

I ck fold and dont think about it too much vs most laps but might be a closer hand than i think?

hand 2 if hes passive seems like an easy bet fold
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:25 PM
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Why is hand 1 check-fold? I'm pretty interested in hearing this because this could be a spot where I have a leak.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: 2 x blind, small pot, same guy.

Every time I read these posts I have to believe that what happens in hand 1 will effect my actions in hand #2.
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