200NL | AA 200BB deep vs. check-raise by TAG

Jigsaws · #1 01-04-2007, 12:16 PM

Vava questioned my play on this hand in the cheese thread, so I figured I'd post it here. I think we can forget that the results were already posted in the cheese thread.

Villain is 28/15/6.6 over 165 hands. We have quite a bit of history already. On another table he was two to my left, and he was 3betting my UTG/HJ opens from the Button a ton, until I 4bet him twice. He's slowed down now somewhat. If he's observant, he probably knows I'm slightly tilted.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($106)
SB ($276.80)
BB ($576.05)
Hero ($421.80)
MP ($172.30)
CO ($107.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, 4 folds, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($89) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $55, Hero calls $55.

River: ($199) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $125, Hero calls $125.

dd323 · #2 01-04-2007, 12:42 PM

I think this is standard assuming there is no recent history of a pissing contest in which case I push somewhere.

deaders · #3 01-04-2007, 12:52 PM

I think river is a fold. Nearly every time Ive put in 200bb with an unimproved overpair I have regretted it.

orange · #4 01-04-2007, 12:53 PM

I think you can fold this river most often.

Against a semi-sane player, his most likely hand range is typically weak overpairs like 88 and the like on the flop/turn, plus maybe a 5. I don't think many players will fire the river unless they are overly aggro with those types of hands. I don't really think QQ+ is there given PF action. So, I think he has air or a 5 by the river.

I wouldnt say that I always fold here, just that in theory, its probably the best thing to do imo. Though I know I call alot here. If he's pretty LAGGy and such and can make this move with a 6, I would prob call...but you have to go with your gut.

Womble · #5 01-04-2007, 12:54 PM

He hasnt put in 200BB, only 100BB.

Only hand that that has you beat is 77 (or 55). He could easily do this with overpairs.

River seems close though - but I call due to his aggression

orange · #6 01-04-2007, 12:55 PM

womble,
I think that there are a few more combos of 5 out there, (ie. 65s/75s/77/55/A5s/etc etc etc).

Sciolist · #7 01-04-2007, 12:58 PM

The flop line just makes no sense if he has a five, but then a lot of people are stupid. Alternatively, he may think "aha, he's on tilt, let's annoy him with a check raise with my quad fives" or whatever.

This looks fine to me though. He's very aggressive, he could have practically any overpair here.

pterodactyl_ · #8 01-04-2007, 01:00 PM

I'm 3-betting this flop all day. The range of hands we are scared of is very limited. 77 or a random 54s/56s? I reraise it to 100$ and if he pushes back over the top (which I would not expect to happen very often) I think I'd have to lay it down.

As played, I think he's shown too much strength throughout the hand, fold river.

dd323 · #9 01-04-2007, 01:12 PM

great, so you are bluffing with AA..

Abramovic · #10 01-04-2007, 01:21 PM

I like it, but think the river is a fold. This guy could be C/Ring the flop w/ air, but I think we can rule that out when he fires again on turn and certainly river.