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Old 01-04-2007, 08:47 AM
homeslice homeslice is offline
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Default 50NL 6m: Flop NFD

I figure when SB pushes he's got at least a pair and flush draw, but I have outs and a loose villian behind me. Is calling +EV?

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MP ($28.10)
Button ($76.70)
SB ($21.60)
BB ($78.65)
Hero ($54.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $19.6 (All-In)</font>, BB folds, Hero ???
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: 50NL 6m: Flop NFD

This looks like a pure mathematical PStove calc
-assume set/made flush/AQ TP equally likely and QQ+

I'm not sure how to calc this exactly (sounds like a Pokey moment) but at the table I would assume 9 flush outs live
-ignore ace /if he holds a heart cancel each other ~33%equity

30/70 vs made flush (k8s)not JTs
30/70 vs middle set (77)
43/56 vs KQo K hearts
~40/60 vs AQo e.g. clubs

Since he bet x2 pot I'll fold here.

Handreading wise I put him on KQo K hearts as most likely pair+fdraw thought this could also be a baby flush or AQ type of hand 'pushing' to protect vs 1 card draws/set.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:10 AM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: 50NL 6m: Flop NFD

I'd fold. You have $2 invested, and while I can't do the math the way the others can, it doesn't seem as if you have the odds to call this.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:31 AM
Skipjack Skipjack is offline
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Default Re: 50NL 6m: Flop NFD

I would fold. Jacks are probably not outs, aces arent outs if he is holding AQ or A9, the hearts are not all clean outs if hes holding JTh or KTh.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:32 AM
Glasuan Glasuan is offline
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Default Re: 50NL 6m: Flop NFD

This is a pretty easy fold, you cannot draw for that much. If you got some sort of read on how the SB was playing, it would be a possible call (trying to push his short-stack a lot). But 9/10 times this is a very easy lay down.
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