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Old 01-01-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

I posted this in the SSNLF to see what they thought. Villain hasn't been particularly aggressively preflop. I obtained a huge stack early stacking off with AA against KQ but lost alot of it back with KK against 88 which caught a set on the flop.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t4255)
UTG+1 (t1160)
MP1 (t840)
CO (t2700)
Button (t1700)
SB (t1595)
Hero (t1250)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t50, Hero checks

Flop: (t200) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100

Turn: (t400) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t100</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1050 (All-in)</font>
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Old 01-01-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

fold flop, fold turn, no need to have this FPS, just play stright forward especially at the 5.50s
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

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fold flop, fold turn, no need to have this FPS, just play stright forward especially at the 5.50s

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Actually, I never think about FPS when I make these types of plays. I don't float very often, but when I do, I've had alot more success with this move than failure. I look at alot of factors when I choose this play like villain's aggressive and looseness level, whether I feel I can actually bluff my opponent off a possible better hand (which I did, considering he saw me win and lose big hands with AA and KK earlier), blind to stack ratio, whether draws are present, etc.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

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fold flop, fold turn, no need to have this FPS, just play stright forward especially at the 5.50s

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Actually, I never think about FPS when I make these types of plays. I don't float very often, but when I do, I've had alot more success with this move than failure. I look at alot of factors when I choose this play like villain's aggressive and looseness level, whether I feel I can actually bluff my opponent off a possible better hand (which I did, considering he saw me win and lose big hands with AA and KK earlier), blind to stack ratio, whether draws are present, etc.

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Do you ever consider the fact that you're in a $5 sng and all you have to do is fold to win?
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

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fold flop, fold turn, no need to have this FPS, just play stright forward especially at the 5.50s

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Actually, I never think about FPS when I make these types of plays. I don't float very often, but when I do, I've had alot more success with this move than failure. I look at alot of factors when I choose this play like villain's aggressive and looseness level, whether I feel I can actually bluff my opponent off a possible better hand (which I did, considering he saw me win and lose big hands with AA and KK earlier), blind to stack ratio, whether draws are present, etc.

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Do you ever consider the fact that you're in a $5 sng and all you have to do is fold to win?

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No, because folding and winning is a big fallacy that alot of people have and it doesn't happen nearly as often for it to be viably profitable or make up for when bad variance trumps solid play.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

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fold flop, fold turn, no need to have this FPS, just play stright forward especially at the 5.50s

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Actually, I never think about FPS when I make these types of plays. I don't float very often, but when I do, I've had alot more success with this move than failure. I look at alot of factors when I choose this play like villain's aggressive and looseness level, whether I feel I can actually bluff my opponent off a possible better hand (which I did, considering he saw me win and lose big hands with AA and KK earlier), blind to stack ratio, whether draws are present, etc.

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Do you ever consider the fact that you're in a $5 sng and all you have to do is fold to win?

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No, because folding and winning is a big fallacy that alot of people have and it doesn't happen nearly as often for it to be viably profitable or make up for when bad variance trumps solid play.

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I can find TONS of hand histories where I play 1 or 2 hands and get ITMM with &lt;1500 chips.

People suck, and don't know what the bubble is.

Don't deviate from STTF standards and you will absolutely crush the 5.50s.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

Complete spew. Simply fold this flop.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

If you have a problem making this decision, then you should just fold this hand from the BB, pre-flop, and only play group 1 hands. Ever.
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

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If you have a problem making this decision, then you should just fold this hand from the BB, pre-flop, and only play group 1 hands. Ever.

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Have a problem making what decision?
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Old 01-01-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: ($5.50) Floating with middle pair, AI turn

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I can find TONS of hand histories where I play 1 or 2 hands and get ITMM with &lt;1500 chips.

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Good for you, it doesn't happen for everyone.
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