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12-26-2006, 07:40 PM
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A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
This quote came from Melcheybleu in a now locked thread, figured I'd put my reply here. Quote in question:
[ QUOTE ] Would an AC forum have a mod? or would it be a true AC society? [/ QUOTE ] While 2p2 may be a public forum, it is privately owned. As such, under anarchocapitalism the owners of the site may do whatever they please with it, or empower someone (make them a mod) to do what the owners want. Two plus two is not a government. The anology I've used before is that 2p2 is a club and it's mods are bouncers. 
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12-29-2006, 01:03 PM
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Re: A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
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And more than that - AC society isn't lawless. It doesn't preclude laws, courts, and justice systems (just like we have them now). [/ QUOTE ] And as soon as you have laws and courts and justice systems you have a government....and therefore no AC. Then the response is "its not a government, courts and justice systems are privately contracted for". But that isnt any differnt than a public government, except that the wealthy will be in even more control of the courts and justice systems than they are in a public government. Which reminds me of another AC "solution" which is arbitration. Other than the influence that the wealthy have over arbitrators, there is another problem with relying on arbitrators for solving problems between "equals" (wealth wise). For an arbitrator to remain in the arbitration business he cannot remain totally neutral from case to case. If the preponderence of cases he hears has one party "in the right", and he rules that way, he will no longer be hired by the "wrong side" for future arbitrations. Therefore he has to bend over backwards to find ways to equalize his decisions to not give either side cause to not use him. This is very clearly the result over the history of labor arbitrations.
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#5
12-29-2006, 01:14 PM
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Re: A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
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[ QUOTE ] The anology I've used before is that 2p2 is a club and it's mods are bouncers. [/ QUOTE ]  [/ QUOTE ] lol, that was funny.
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12-29-2006, 01:25 PM
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Re: A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
I'm not a utopian. I believe justice will be "more just" under an anarchocapitalist structure. I'm not going to write a monologue about why. But do I think it will be completely just? No. Life isn't just; we do the best we can.
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#7
12-29-2006, 01:40 PM
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Re: A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
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I'm not a utopian. I believe justice will be "more just" under an anarchocapitalist structure. I'm not going to write a monologue about why. But do I think it will be completely just? No. Life isn't just; we do the best we can. [/ QUOTE ] Hard to discuss an unwritten monologue.
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#8
12-31-2006, 12:26 AM
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Re: A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
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And as soon as you have laws and courts and justice systems you have a government....and therefore no AC. [/ QUOTE ] Sure, if you want to use a screwed up defintion of government you can think that. The fact is that governments are territorial monopolies, which isn't something courts and justice systems would have in a free market anarchist society. [ QUOTE ] Then the response is "its not a government, courts and justice systems are privately contracted for". But that isnt any differnt than a public government, [/ QUOTE ] False, there is competition among court and justice systems that results in the people being better served, and you have choice of which one to pick. [ QUOTE ] except that the wealthy will be in even more control of the courts and justice systems than they are in a public government. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know why you constantly assert this. In a free market court systems would need to maintain good reputations to keep getting business. Not so right now. Not to mention that right now the system is set up to favor the rich. [ QUOTE ] For an arbitrator to remain in the arbitration business he cannot remain totally neutral from case to case. If the preponderence of cases he hears has one party "in the right", and he rules that way, he will no longer be hired by the "wrong side" for future arbitrations. Therefore he has to bend over backwards to find ways to equalize his decisions to not give either side cause to not use him. [/ QUOTE ] Arbitrators would likely be contracted on before hand, part of some policy you have with the company. Also if you want a monolouge here you go: Police, law, and the courts chapter from For A New Liberty [ QUOTE ] This is very clearly the result over the history of labor arbitrations. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. Can you link me to some of this history?
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#9
12-31-2006, 12:38 AM
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Re: A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
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[ QUOTE ] The anology I've used before is that 2p2 is a club and it's mods are bouncers. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] You should replace that flipflopping saggy faced ketchup wife having loser of an avatar with that large scary black man.
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12-31-2006, 12:55 AM
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Re: A common misconception with Anarchocapitalism
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[ QUOTE ] This is very clearly the result over the history of labor arbitrations. [/ QUOTE ] Interesting. Can you link me to some of this history? [/ QUOTE ]
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