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Old 12-13-2006, 03:17 PM
swope swope is offline
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Default top set v flush draw: thoughts?

I had read someone advise holding off on going to war with a set against a flush draw until the turn was a blank, and last night I think I finally had my epiphany as to why;

Flop was 36T, 2 spades, giving me a set of tens.

UTG pots, which felt a lot like 2 pair/bottom set/steal attempt, someone in middle position calls (fairly obvious flush draw), and I pot, putting both players all in if they call, my logic being that Im clearly the best hand ATM and want to get mr flush draw to commit as many chips to the pot as possible with something like 20% odds to hit his flush without the board pairing.

UTG folds (fast), flush draw called, showing Ax spades + etc.

Turn was a blank, river gave him his third spade.

In retrospect, I feel I should have min re-raised the flop, then pushed on the turn. This would have put more money in the pot but also offered totally unacceptable pot odds to call my push on the turn.

Thoughts?
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Old 12-13-2006, 03:19 PM
OmahaGrinder OmahaGrinder is offline
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Default Re: top set v flush draw: thoughts?

You want to push as many chips as you can when you have the best of it. Pushing the flop and getting him all in with a worst hand is the correct play here since you only put him on the flush draw.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:36 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: top set v flush draw: thoughts?

My thought is bbv
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:41 PM
glass_onion glass_onion is offline
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Default Re: top set v flush draw: thoughts?

especially with the dead money from the intial fold this is a huge +EV play. One of the easiest in the game. Moreover, if the board paired turn you wouldn't have gotten a dime.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: top set v flush draw: thoughts?

cool, so the general consensus im hearing is to go to war fast and hard and cash on the 80% of times they miss.

seems obvious in retrospect.. i was probably just spooked from getting stung.
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