Hand Per Hour

[mattaknox]

In your typical B&M cardroom, how many hands per hour typically get dealt, on average? If the game is important, let's say for 1/2 NLH and/or 2/5 NLH. Any dealers who might have an idea on that one..? Thanks!

[LasVegasMichael]

30-35 depending on autoshufflers and dealer/player speed.

[flavio321]

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In your typical B&M cardroom, how many hands per hour typically get dealt, on average? If the game is important, let's say for 1/2 NLH and/or 2/5 NLH. Any dealers who might have an idea on that one..? Thanks!

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most 1-2nl is very slow and very [censored] slow. if that table is loose passive with 6-7 to the flop, you might see 10-15hands/hour. this is why the concept of time rake for nl games is ridiculous. i have once managed to play a total of 6 hands!!!! in one hour of play in which 5 players busted and rebought, one fill, 3 floor decisions and deck change.

[psandman]

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In your typical B&M cardroom, how many hands per hour typically get dealt, on average? If the game is important, let's say for 1/2 NLH and/or 2/5 NLH. Any dealers who might have an idea on that one..? Thanks!

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most 1-2nl is very slow and very [censored] slow. if that table is loose passive with 6-7 to the flop, you might see 10-15hands/hour. this is why the concept of time rake for nl games is ridiculous. i have once managed to play a total of 6 hands!!!! in one hour of play in which 5 players busted and rebought, one fill, 3 floor decisions and deck change.

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$1-$2 is slower than $2-$5 for too reasons, alot more hands get played farther in $1-$2 and there is much more change making in $1/$2.

In any game if your players are drunks, focussed on the TV or insist on staring into each others souls on every bet then the NL games will be slow, but I still find the slowest game to deal is $2-$4 Limit. Every hand goes at least to the turn, and most to the river. 75% of the players need to be prompted to act everytime it is there turn and then they will ask how much Is the bet? or how much they can bet? constantly (even the players who play 10 hours a day every day).They like to buy in for the minimum and keep buying small amounts of chips when they get low. And then there is the guy who insists on coloring up a rack of white for a stack of red so that you can keep making change as soon as he loses his last white chips.

[FireStorm]

General range is 28-33 hands per hour. You'll be on the low side in $1-$2 NL (or any other poorly played games where lots of players see the flop, and change must be made), or on the low side if people are constantly reloading (time consuming) etc. If game is well played with mostly one denomination chip on the table, mid 30's is possible.

[bav]

Last weekend after two hours of 22-24 hands per hour at a Bally's table I fled. It was VERY slow (which is why I counted how many hands a couple of the dealers got out during their down), with 6 of the 10 players waiting until it was their turn to act to look at their cards, and a couple of those folks never being ready to look and always having to be told it was their turn, and one of 'em who actually ALWAYS stared down the entire table before he looked (every new dealer in the box would tell the guy "it's your turn sir" at least once and the guy would always reply with "I KNOW!" as he stared at everybody).

So 22/hr is unbearably slow. I finally went home and spent the evening watching my toenails grow. Far less boring.

40 is a blistering pace. Sahara's tourney with 20 minute rounds are my convenient source for timing of this. Typically the button will go around about 10-11 spots per 20 minutes for 30-33 hands/hr at the Sahara tourney. If the button manages to go 13 spots, it's been very fast and required several no-flop hands to get there, if it moves 8 spots there's been a lot of Hollywooding or multi-minute in-the-tank sessions or some controversy costing several minutes of our time.

No NL1/2 game will sustain 39 hands/hr over the long haul unless it's shorthanded or an extremely unusual mix of players. But I've never played in (or at least never stayed in) any game that was as slow as flavio claims. 10 hands per hour is 6 minutes per hand... that's an eternity. One hand once in a while might take 6 minutes as someone spends 4 minutes pondering a big all-in, but no flippin' way should the AVERAGE hand take 6 minutes.

The 28-33 estimate above is about what I woulda said is normal for a NL1/2 game. I kinda like the 30-35 figure for NL2/5. Slightly faster, normally, but only a tad.

[RR]

I once played in a room where they got out 14 hands in an hour of 10-20 hold'em. It appeared in the hiring process they disqualified anyone that had played poker before. At the time I was managing a small poker club about 2 hours away form this casino. All of our dealers and probably most of our players woudl deal better than anyone they had in the place. I once saw them stop a 10-20 game for close to 10 minutes while they looked through a rule book because someon chancged seats and they didn't know where to put the button. This poekr room closed not too long after it opened butI understand it has reopened.

[SellingtheDrama]

I'd call my typical 2-5 game at Borgata closer to 40 per hour. I generally pay at least two full sets of blinds per down.

Once (without a tight table, just a very good dealer and everyone acting promptly and accurately in turn) I paid 4 times, and wasn't the blinds to start or end, so likely close to the full 40. That was fun.

[Rottersod]

If you are playing at a table with an automatic shuffler then you should be able to get in 25-30 hands per hour unles the table is very tight and folding everything PF. Typical things that will slow down a game:

making change for a rebuy
sitting a new player
dealer push
newer players that have to be told when to bet