email i sent to stars re: button bots

[kurosh]

I sit at tables alone and start up new games. I wait for other people to come and play with them. A lot of sites hire props to do this for them. I do it because I like shorthanded and headsup games.

It usually takes a bit for someone else to sit, but once they do, WITHOUT FAIL, a third player instantly sits down and only plays their button. They do it so quickly that it has to be a bot. These players are unfairly taking money directly from me. While I realize it is not against any rules, it is unethical and against the spirit of the game.

I have to say that this is utter [censored]. They are stealing from me and I always end up being the big blind, since I was the first to sit.

[Gotmilk]

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I sit at tables alone and start up new games. I wait for other people to come and play with them. A lot of sites hire props to do this for them. I do it because I like shorthanded and headsup games.

It usually takes a bit for someone else to sit, but once they do, WITHOUT FAIL, a third player instantly sits down and only plays their button. They do it so quickly that it has to be a bot. These players are unfairly taking money directly from me. While I realize it is not against any rules, it is unethical and against the spirit of the game.

I have to say that this is utter [censored]. They are stealing from me and I always end up being the big blind, since I was the first to sit.

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whether it's a bot or not, players with this type of history of play should be banned, or severely warned and then banned.

[Bluffoon]

I have seen this happen quite a bit when I used to play at party but never at stars. At party I always was able to sit out when I recognized one of these freeriders and I alerted anyone else that was at the table so they would know also.

Can't you do this at stars? I am interested to hear star's response.

[kurosh]

Yeah, what I've started doing is sitting out when they sit and it seems to screw up the bot. They don't play and leave then.

[pipedreamz]

so they are seeing a free hand and then leaving? or is it just the fact that you start off as BB?

please clear this up as i am a table opening newb

[Gotmilk]

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so they are seeing a free hand and then leaving? or is it just the fact that you start off as BB?

please clear this up as i am a table opening newb

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The game starts fresh. Two people are blinds and the 3rd is the button. They sit down and take a hand if they happen to be the button in the new game, and then immediately leave.

You can make immense profits by programming a computer to sit down and play only the button at new tables and just raise AA-JJ and never fold.

[HavanaBanana]

I have noticed this too.

Solution:

Let all new players pay a BB.

ToT

[Gotmilk]

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I have noticed this too.

Solution:

Let all new players pay a BB.

ToT

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I guess, but it's a pattern of play that's pretty easy to detect. Why not just warn and ban and leave the games as is? I think it's just a minor problem that noone noticed or thought about before.

[Victor]

whats funny is the way ppl would beat the ub bots was to play hu against them and only play sb/button. bots couldnt realize they were being cheated.

[mayday4379]

Good luck

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