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Old 12-05-2006, 08:04 AM
moira moira is offline
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Default 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

The guy is a big fish and I think joined the table a few hands ago, so no real history. Do you play this hand differently and why?


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Hero ($280.40)
UTG ($176.20)
MP ($198.80)
CO ($420.15)
Button ($151.74)
SB ($101.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $5, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($18) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $12</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $38</font>, UTG calls $26.

Turn: ($94) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $278.40 (All-In), UTG calls $176.20 (All-In).

River: ($548.60) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $548.60
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:12 AM
Womble Womble is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

Yes!

Fold PF, I would CR flop to $45-50. You have little FE on the turn, I would bet something like $50 there as played

Nasty hand there
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:25 AM
blizu blizu is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

What about check/calling on all streets unless we hit?
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

wow u played that baddddd.
i agree with the little FE on the turn.
flop is fine...turn push is nasty
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:28 AM
WelshChip WelshChip is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

Whats ur reasons to play PF with this ? I would fold this alot of time ! I would c/r this flop larger than u did.

I dont see any reason to push on the turn as u have little fold equity imo !

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:59 AM
davekngs davekngs is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

I hope u make a habit of check raisng with 2pair/set here as well otherwise your CR followed by open push overbet screams 'Im on a draw'.

if he truely is a fish then this is terrible you have more FE against good players and should be more inclined to see the draw a little cheaper against a poor player and get the money in once you hit.
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

I fold pf.

On the flop I'd b/3b allin as that's my line with a flopped set on a wet board.

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Old 12-05-2006, 10:34 AM
Pete H Pete H is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

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What about check/calling on all streets unless we hit?

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That's bad.

Quite often you don't get paid if you hit your obvious FD and it costs a ton when you don't hit.

With a combo draw like that we want all our money in as aggressor on the flop when we have more FE and more equity against hands that call us.

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Old 12-05-2006, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

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I fold pf.

On the flop I'd b/3b allin as that's my line with a flopped set on a wet board.

NP: Pig Destroyer - Lost Cause

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wtf kind of crack are the rest of you smoking....especially womble...cmon guys.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:04 AM
Freelancer Freelancer is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: Monster draw against a fish. To be played differently?

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I fold pf.

On the flop I'd b/3b allin as that's my line with a flopped set on a wet board.

NP: Pig Destroyer - Lost Cause

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wtf kind of crack are the rest of you smoking....especially womble...cmon guys.

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